9-1-5...Pics

[brianmanzella]

Ted,

I NEVER teach a double shift....I DO allow it. Big difference.

You missed one important point, the guy from Louisiana could have made you a better player than the one who wouldn't adapt.

You see, that's IS the debate (and where your former teacher went wrong)

Adjust until it works or not.

Let the IMPERATIVES dictate the components.

Oh yeah, one day I'll show you how to fade it with a flat left wrist finish swivel.

No problem....IF you know how to teach.

[Yoda]

The only area that I heard from you and that I would have a real problem implementing was the exaggerated finish swivel that had the clubface laying horizontal to the ground. I think that's a good thing for someone that steers to try to do, but I wouldn't have them do it in reality.

Oh yeah, one day I'll show you how to fade it with a flat left wrist finish swivel.

Ted Fort teaches the correct Finish Swivel every day. He teaches that the Wrists rotate into a 'parallel to the Plane' position after the Follow-Through. And that Plane is Inclined, not Horizontal (4-D-0).

[tongzilla]

This is a TGM...Forum...I thought it was funny in the Glossary when it used to say..."Chosing the Head" instead of the corrected version of "Choosing the Head"...

Does this imply a "Choice"??????????????????

Uh oh.....Choice means variation to me......

But I know where Master Yoda stands ...and I support his Posture on this....

As well as Mr. Manzella...great points and great pics

I guess I sleep in more than one camp.....

I did not expect 3 pictures of Snead to escalate into a forest fire...I'll contribute some kerosene to help put the fire out!!!

AS

Annikan, I'm in your camp -- the camp that sleeps in more than one camp

I wouldn't label say this is a forest fire yet. I've seen much worse (not around here fortunately!). I love lively debates with a bit of emotion, people fighting for what they believe in. And this is what we have here.

The point is that Brian doesn't just teach the "through the neck pivot center". I think (correct me if I'm wrong Brian), if you were to coach Ted now, you would not get him to change from 'head center' to 'neck center'.

[12 piece bucket]

We're here...lurking....observing..learning...

The "eyes" are what stay centered in the tripod ...

You see a camera sets atop of a tripod in the center...right...well you can rotate the camera clockwise and it would appear to move to the right while staying perfectly centered..In the case of "The human camera"... the lens of the camera can move along the "horizontal axis of the eyes" and while maintaining a centered gaze keeping the object in the middle of the fovial...The pictures Mr.Manzella drew with Mac O'Grady show this camera rotating clockwise which gives the appearance of the head moving to the right ..but just 20 degrees of neck rotation ...meanwhile the eyes are moving along the horizontal axis in the opposite direction...

Could Eye Dominance play a roll here? Fat Jack was left eye dominant. Some theorist say that's why he did that turning his head to the right thing before start up . . .

[YodasLuke]

Ted,

I NEVER teach a double shift....I DO allow it. Big difference.

You missed one important point, the guy from Louisiana could have made you a better player than the one who wouldn't adapt.

You see, that's IS the debate (and where your former teacher went wrong)

Adjust until it works or not.

Let the IMPERATIVES dictate the components.

Oh yeah, one day I'll show you how to fade it with a flat left wrist finish swivel.

No problem....IF you know how to teach.

The only debate I see is the willingness to follow Homer, his teachings, his reccommendations, and his variations in their purest form with component variations to follow. OR, one can choose to ignore his suggestions.
I have no problem teaching the appropriate finish swivel as explained in the book. It's not my own creation.

[brianmanzella]

Ted Fort teaches the correct Finish Swivel every day. He teaches that the Wrists rotate into a 'parallel to the Plane' position after the Follow-Through. And that Plane is Inclined, not Horizontal (4-D-0).

Really?

How 'bout that!

[annikan skywalker]

Back to topic...

[12 piece bucket]

Back to topic...

Looks like Tiger's spine is closer to the target in frames 3 & 4? Then the patented Bobbing. But Eldrick's got MAJORs and Bucket's got a MAJOR addiction to chicken and taters. So what can you do?

[Martee]

I like annikan skywalker rear view. To me that is easier to see what is what regarding moving and rotation.

Does Tiger set up with his shoulders open somewhat to the target line? I couldn't quickly find a picture if he did or not.

None the less I think it shows the head rotation effect.

The hip rotation/slide on the backstroke

And the leg action on down and follow through. Boy that left leg really raises the left shoulder, changes the axis tilt.

Thought it was interesting his head never gets back to the position (alignment/orientation) that the had at address till the ball is well away. The second frame is closer to the impact position than the first.

[annikan skywalker]

Here are two more....

Mac O'Grady



Tom Purtzer