Thanks for that Daryl. I can think of no more succinct statement that means more to me in G.O.L.F.
I get 12 new 9th graders and 3 new 10th graders with my crew in about a month. My mantra will be precisely what you have stated or I will die trying.
Yes generally speaking , for full shots but not necessarily for some green side shots.
What about a 10-3-J Pause Minor Basic Stroke with Vertical Hinge Action? That'd swing the club head from the hands and given Vertical bend the left wrist wouldn't it?
Lynn teaches a particular type of lob shot where Throwaway is added. Ball forward, Sweep Release , the shaft vertical at impact , the bounce of the wedge brushing the turf at the ball or ever so slightly before, minimal hand travel etc etc.. Great shot. You can rotate the plane line or not. Even hit a little tiny draw , floater lob shot. Its one way to go but ideally you have options, lots of em. Then your a master.
I wish Lynn would do a masters level of execution short shot video where he gets into all this stuff and more , much more. It'd be better than anything out there.
10-3-J PAUSE This term indicates a pecking motion of the Hands toward the ball causing the Left Hand to stop and become the center of the Clubhead Impact arc with the Right Arm driving hard against the stationary left Wrist Fulcrum but with almost no Follow-through.
Yes but we've been discussing shots whereby the Line of compression can be manipulated. You're now introducing a shot whereby the Clubface/Ball Contact Interval (Impact Interval) is so short that although a Line of Compression is produced, it cannot be "properly" manipulated during the interval.
You cannot Hinge with Throwaway, which is one of the reasons it should be avoided but I agree that there are different shots whereby Hinging, although not irrelevant, is no more effective in manipulating the Line of Compression than any other procedure.
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Apparently there is no factor – including Clubhead Throwaway – that cannot, by proper assembly, adjustment, alignment, etc., be worked into a fairly effective Stroke Pattern for some application or other.
Yes but we've been discussing shots whereby the Line of compression can be manipulated. You're now introducing a shot whereby the Clubface/Ball Contact Interval (Impact Interval) is so short that although a Line of Compression is produced, it cannot be "properly" manipulated during the interval.
You cannot Hinge with Throwaway, which is one of the reasons it should be avoided but I agree that there are different shots whereby Hinging, although not irrelevant, is no more effective in manipulating the Line of Compression than any other procedure.
Yes you can Hinge with throwaway...true vertical hinging....very much dependent on your stance, grip type....but it is a EXTREMELY effective method.
Can I have Dual Vertical hinging with Rhythm by using a punch basic stroke and the #3 pp rolls from under the shaft? And obtain the proper associated compression?
Can do full stroke? Can do putting with only true vertical hinge, no #2 or #3 accumulator just #1 and/or #4 ?
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How then can true Vertical hinging...be HINGING then? The club can be thrownaway with pure layback motion...
It's Hinging because while the Clubhead is traveling in an Circle, the Clubface is simultaneously remaining perpendicular to the Vertical Plane and all of this is occurring in "Rhythm". If the Clubhead is traveling in an Circle, and the Clubface is simultaneously remaining perpendicular to the Vertical Plane but it's not traveling in Rhythm, then it's "Throwaway".
You can Throwaway the Clubhead and produce "Layback only" without a Hinge Action. I was only saying that by using Throwaway, you prevent Hinge Action. I don't mean to imply that Throwaway isn't effective or that it can't produce the same results as Hinge Action (Close enough results).
Are "Close enough results" really close enough? The Answer is No.... Hinging has enormous advantages over Throwaway. With Hinging, you can vary the distance you want to hit the shot and you only need to control the amount of Thrust. The Ball will always respond the same except for distance because direction control remains constant. With Throwaway, you also change the Thrust to change distance but any given Throwaway Alignment has only one direction. So if you want to hit the ball farther, then you must adjust the Amount of, or Alignment of, or the Timing of the Throwaway. Otherwise it's going off in some other direction.
With Hinging, direction control is stable and there's no reason why a 25 foot chip should be more than two feet on either side of the hole. It's as stable as putting. With Throwaway, it's a big struggle and endless practice to maintain the Hand/eye coordination skill set.
Can I have Dual Vertical hinging with Rhythm by using a punch basic stroke and the #3 pp rolls from under the shaft?
Yes. And, a "Punch" basic Stroke is the Only way to produce an Inherent Dual Vertical Hinge. Rotate the Plane Line open until the Angle of Approach covers the original Plane Line. "Inherent Hinge" = a Hinge produced by Elbow Location. HK said that Dual Vertical Hinge is a Hand Manipulation procedure. However, this was in reference when using a Square Plane, Stance and Target Line. If the Plane, Target and Stance Line are all square, then Hand Manipulation is all that's available to produce a Dual Vertical Hinge if you want the Ball Flight along the Target Line.
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And obtain the proper associated compression?
Perfectly. In fact, Centrifugal Force will aid the Dual Vertical Hinge more easily than any other Hinge. So, not only can you create a Straight Line of Compression, but it will be easier to "Sustain" and Manipulate that Line through the Impact Interval.
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Can do full stroke? If you can execute, it can be done. It's a Hitting Pattern.
Can do putting with only true vertical hinge True Vertical is not allowed in the Rules of Golf but you can use a Dual Vertical Hinge for Putting more easily than any other. Yoda teaches this Putting Stroke and he uses it exceptionally well. It's not considered "Golf Like" so whatever. But if I have to absolutely make a 12 foot putt, then that's the pattern I use. It's never failed me.
no #2 or #3 accumulator just #1 and/or #4 ? Do not zero out the #3 because you need it to create the Dual in the Dual Vertical Hinge. You won't be using #2. Power the Stroke with #1 Only and the #4 Accumulator is used "Passively".
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