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Old 02-16-2012, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
Spend some time studying and find the quote yourself and not at me. Last smart guy who tried that was on the fourth green at TP south. I took a four wood and hit his ball into the ocean and walked on.
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I'll apologize now for not being able to find a quote that doesn't exist. I'm sure you believe it does, and you probably saw something similar on another site said by someone else. Going anti-lag is what some are trying to use to discredit TGM.

IMO, if Homer wasn't perfect, it wasn't because of his belief in THE SECRET OF GOLF.

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:11 AM
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Kev,

Most Pro's have Throw-away with full strokes. It's controlled. They're not perfect. You don't need a perfect swing to play professional golf.** However, they don't exhibit throwaway with less than full strokes no matter what shaft they use.

In Fact, they don't want to change it. They rely on Shaft makers to adjust flex characteristics to give them maximum distance/accuracy with their existing swing. If things go wrong, they blame the Clubmaker. It's always been "that way".

If you really want to see something funny, them make them all play with the same ball and same set of clubs. I'd pay to see that.

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Kev,

Most Pro's have Throw-away with full strokes. It's controlled. They're not perfect. You don't need a perfect swing to play professional golf.** However, they don't exhibit throwaway with less than full strokes no matter what shaft they use.

In Fact, they don't want to change it. They rely on Shaft makers to adjust flex characteristics to give them maximum distance/accuracy with their existing swing. If things go wrong, they blame the Clubmaker.

It's always been "that way". If you really want to see something funny, them make them all play with the same ball and same set of clubs. I'd pay to see that.









**To be a Pro, you need great impact, some talent, some luck, a free steak dinner, someone to blow smoke up your butt, and another to interview you like you just solved world hunger. And you need someone to write the check.
Guys like Couples and Singh would be perfect examples of those without lag through impact. Their right hands aren't even on the club on many swings through the impact interval. However, as teachers is that what we try to convey to our students? Is that what Homer and Lynn are trying to teach us? Did Homer EVER say "all pros have lost their lag pressure at impact?"

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:41 AM
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If you play and practice everyday and are supremely gifted like a tour pro you can hit with certain parts of your anatomy if it works. However, IMO, the rest of us need lag and forward shaft lean on every shot every time to insure solid contact and control our eggs.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:55 AM
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If you play and practice everyday and are supremely gifted like a tour pro you can hit with certain parts of your anatomy if it works. However, IMO, the rest of us need lag and forward shaft lean on every shot every time to insure solid contact and control our eggs.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:26 AM
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If you play and practice everyday and are supremely gifted like a tour pro you can hit with certain parts of your anatomy if it works. However, IMO, the rest of us need lag and forward shaft lean on every shot every time to insure solid contact and control our eggs.
edit...you need the CORRECT amount of lean for the shot at hand...
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:09 PM
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edit...you need the CORRECT amount of lean for the shot at hand...
Mr. Bucket,

What is the geometry of Shaft Lean? I mean, what causes the lean or why does the shaft lean, or under what alignments does the shaft lean more or less, or what is the purpose of shaft lean??
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:15 PM
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IMO, this picture mirrors YODA's video. The clubhead is outracing the shaft, but the hands continue to lead the sweet spot and lag pressure is maintained. Nice job Jeff Evans, beautiful!

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Old 02-16-2012, 12:24 PM
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Mr. Bucket,

What is the geometry of Shaft Lean? I mean, what causes the lean or why does the shaft lean, or under what alignments does the shaft lean more or less, or what is the purpose of shaft lean??
Shaft lean is potentially a dynamic component of the "manipulating the line of compression" equation.... it has a large degree of influence on loft, angle of attack (depending on other variables), where the face angle thingie is pointing, rate of release (or not release) of the accumulators....also can be a function of grip type...

the purpose of lean is defined ideally consciously by the player hitting the shot required given the playing conditions and the adjustment and/or compensations of his individual machine.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
IMO, this picture mirrors YODA's video. The clubhead is outracing the shaft, but the hands continue to lead the sweet spot and lag pressure is maintained. Nice job Jeff Evans, beautiful!

Kevin,

Do you have the impact photo from this sequence or do you know who does?

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