Concept of Plane ...

[Mike O]

Very nice Bucket!

Hot and Humid here in California this last week!

[Yoda]

Very good and astute question Nuke . . .

First of all to answer this question you must understand the concept of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and the Level Right Wrist.



The Right Forearm Flying Wedge is basically having the Clubshaft and Right FOREARM in the same plane like a javelin thrower. Check the cat out in this pic. See how the javelin and his right forearm could lay on a table if he dropped them down. The table is the PLANE. So in javelin chucking the table(plane of motion) is Vertical. In baseball the plane is Horizontal . . . See how the forearm and bat are in the same plane and could lay on a table?



. . . and golf the Plane is INCLINED . . . like a roof.



See how Lee Buck's Right Forearm and Clubshaft are in the same plane?

So the Magic of the Right Forearm is this. If you go to Impact Fix and have your Right Forearm and Clubshaft in the same plane, you can actually see and feel the Inclined Plane that the club swings upon just by looking at your Right Forearm and where it is pointing. Back Up and In . . . Down Out and Forward.

All this is so good it hurts. Hats off to Colonel 12 Piece!

And can you see -- and FEEL -- the way Lee Trevino is using his Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point (meaty part of the Right Forefinger) to come into the Ball Down Plane from the Inside Out?

Man...we all ought to get together and buy a bunch of these from Ron Watts and hang'em on our practice room walls!

[12 piece bucket]

All this is so good it hurts. Hats off to Colonel 12 Piece!

And can you see -- and FEEL -- the way Lee Trevino is using his Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point (meaty part of the Right Forefinger) to come into the Ball Down Plane from the Inside Out?

Man...we all ought to get together and buy a bunch of these from Ron Watts and hang'em on our practice room walls!

He's got some great pics . . . they ain't cheap though!

[Daryl]

He's got some great pics . . . they ain't cheap though!

Pics are wonderful and reading/learning about the On-Plane Right Forearm leads one to believe that it's The-Only-Way. Once, during a practice session I actually felt the Right Forearm coming though On-Plane and Truly leading the Club into impact. Wow, what a great, powerful, lagging, dragging feeling having the right hand pass in front of you with the clubhead lagging behind and speeding up to get in-line. Ya just know that impact is going to be a wallop. Now, if I can only get it back. I'm resolved to visit the range at hit one-thousand ball with my Right Arm Flying Wedge only. I think one could build an effective and entire Golf Swing solely based the On-Plane Right Forearm Concept.

[EdZ]

I think one could build an effective and entire Golf Swing solely based the On-Plane Right Forearm Concept.

Right hand only (right arm flying wedge)
Left hand only (left arm flying wedge)

both hands and both flying wedges = maximum impact support

A great way to learn, begining with your putter, then chip, pitch punch. Click, click, click... bent right wrist, flat left wrist.

There is magic in that forearm - and magic in those flying wedges

[phillygolf]

I'm still very confused about the concept of plane. where can i read it? sorry i had not have a copy of the golf machine, Im ordering one soon. but I need help please meanwhile.

No.1 What is a shaft plane, right arm plane and shoulder plane, which plane a swinger, ( say i would like to follow stuart appleby's model ) should follow in a downswing? I could not find a desired explanation in the forum...

No.2 What is a magic right forearm? I came accross in forum and Yoda explaining about Brian feeling the right forearm , lag, working etc and hitting them a long way .
I can almost relate it. I can remember experiencing such a lag before in some of my shots, somewhat in line with my right forearm and with very little efforts my ball is straight and very long (320 yards) .Unfortunately I only did it a few times ever and could never ever repeat them .. ... Can someone pls explain this concept another way?... i could not grasp it .

Thanks and have a great day !

Wow....dissapointment on .......

[nuke99]

Ok, kind people of LBG. Thanks again. Feeling wiser and happier.

I think I had more or less grasp the basic concept .(i hope)

Mathew: Took me a while, but after thinking for a day or two. I finally understood what u meant ! thanks. No wonder i have had unwanted slice in my long woods , did not gasp the longitudinal acceleration. Instead im doing the centrifugal throwaway. Very important piece of explanation.

err one more question.. with all these thing encouraging a draw pattern. How do i actually hit a fade? -_-a

[Mathew]

Mathew: Took me a while, but after thinking for a day or two. I finally understood what u meant ! thanks. No wonder i have had unwanted slice in my long woods , did not gasp the longitudinal acceleration. Instead im doing the centrifugal throwaway. Very important piece of explanation.

No problem

Longitudinal acceleration - I perhaps didn't explain it clearly - Im not as gifted as Yoda when it comes to communication....lol If you put your left hand on top of a table (a plane) palm down and move it back and forth keeping the palm down - you are accelerating longitudinally - lenghtwise on the plane.... In the golf stroke it is just the same but on an incline....

At the top of the backstroke the left wrist should be in a position to do a karate chop on the plane line - and then uncock and roll on that line - allow the clubhead overtake the left wrist by means of a rolling left wrist not a bending left wrist...

[Weightshift]

At the top of the backstroke the left wrist should be in a position to do a karate chop on the plane line - and then uncock and roll on that line - allow the clubhead overtake the left wrist by means of a rolling left wrist not a bending left wrist...

..but when in the downswing does this karate chop occur?

[EdZ]

And let us not forget... 1-L

1-L #11

Clubhead Force and Motion is On Plane at right angles to the Longitudinal Center of Gravity (the direction of the motion) and varies with the Speed, Mass and Swing Radius

and

1-L #5

The Clubshaft lies full length on a flat, tilted plane

and

1-L #15

The Club starts up-and-in after "Low Point" but the thrust continues Down Plane during the Follow-Through

Notice that in #11 he is talking about 'the' plane and in #5 he is talking about 'a' plane.

This is a very important difference that really confuses a lot of folks regarding plane.

Add to this...

4-D-1

...It is the hands AND clubhead - not just the clubhead - that define the Plane.