best way to stay on plane
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03-12-2008, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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One of the biggest reasons people get off plane is that they let their hands move 'out' on the backswing, usually right off the bat - rather than the hands going back, up and in.
This results in a 'lift and roll' move where the hands are too far outside, above plane, while the clubshaft and clubhead are likely too inside and underplane (visually).
Practice your takeaway with the shaft along a picnic bench, which will let you 'allow' the clubface rotation and still stay on plane - tracing a straight plane line
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This is a super old post but just wanted to say thanks. I thought I was on plane until I read this. It has helped my ball striking. Just like EdZ said, I was right off plane from the start!!
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03-12-2008, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by curtisj76
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This is a super old post but just wanted to say thanks. I thought I was on plane until I read this. It has helped my ball striking. Just like EdZ said, I was right off plane from the start!!
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Congratulations on your discovery, curtisj. The archives are chock full of such golden nuggets, and the good news is . . .
Even after you mine it, the gold remains for others!

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03-12-2008, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Congratulations on your discovery, curtisj. The archives are chock full of such golden nuggets, and the good news is . . .
Even after you mine it, the gold remains for others!
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That picnic bench brings back some great memories of Pine Needles, When Yoda demonstrated the power of a straight plane line.
The best way to stay on plane IMHO is to trace the straight plane line. Your educated right forearm will guide the flying wedge assembly just perfectly.
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03-13-2008, 12:17 AM
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Tracing the Straight Plane Line
Originally Posted by 6bmike
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The best way to stay on plane IMHO is to trace the straight plane line. Your educated right forearm will guide the flying wedge assembly just perfectly.
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Thanks, Mike.
And remember to include that #3 Pressure Point (first joint of the right forefinger) with your Right Forearm Tracing. This concept brings the entire Right Forearm Flying Wedge -- not just the Right Hand or Clubshaft -- into Impact (7-3).
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03-13-2008, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Thanks, Mike.
And remember to include that #3 Pressure Point (first joint of the right forefinger) with your Right Forearm Tracing. This concept brings the entire Right Forearm Flying Wedge -- not just the Right Hand or Clubshaft -- into Impact (7-3).
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PP#3 is the king of all pressure points- its the clubhead. And you don't hit the ball with the clubhead. You hit the ball with the preesure points in your hands- namely the King PP- Number three.
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03-13-2008, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
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PP#3 is the king of all pressure points- its the clubhead. And you don't hit the ball with the clubhead. You hit the ball with the preesure points in your hands- namely the King PP- Number three.
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What if I don't feel any pressure (at least I don't think so) in my #3?
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PS I don't flip it
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03-13-2008, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by curtisj76
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What if I don't feel any pressure (at least I don't think so) in my #3?
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If you are swinging you may not feel a lot of pressure in #3 . . . the pressure typically loads on the knuckle so it is moving all around. Don't feel like a doofus if you don't feel it. I don't feel it a whole bunch either. Homer said that Lag Pressure is measured in ounces not pounds. So you have SENSITIVE pressure . . . . A Hitter may feel it stronger. But if you don't feel a bunch as a Swinger A. It's OK. B. Swing with your eyes closed and you'll be more aware of the subtle messages your #3 pressure point is sending.
Also spends some time listening to #4.
Holla.
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03-13-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Homer said that Lag Pressure is measured in ounces not pounds.
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Hi Bucket,
Man, I simply haven't the time to read the 7Th Edition. Would you be kind and tell us what page that statement can be found. I promise to study that page ASAP.
Truly,
Daryl
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03-13-2008, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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Hi Bucket,
Man, I simply haven't the time to read the 7Th Edition. Would you be kind and tell us what page that statement can be found. I promise to study that page ASAP.
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That ain't in the book . . . but he said it . . . on tape . . . well prior to the 7th.
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03-13-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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That ain't in the book . . . but he said it . . . on tape . . . well prior to the 7th.
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6-B-0 GENERAL page 66, 6th edition
...A hanging Driver weighs less than one pound, but at arms length the deltoids (2-M-3) are supporting about four pounds – considering the arm weight as negligible. But with arm and club parallel to the ground, the Wrist is supporting close to six pounds and the deltoids about ten.
These are static weight calculations. I was just thinking that if we consider the forces placed upon the Hands (Clamps) generated from Pivot Lag, and recalculate the weight of Pressure in the Hands during the Downswing, It would seem that the answer may be more than ounces. I was curious as to how the "Ounces" are calculated. Perhaps he was refering to something else? Maybe he was thinking of a swing in Slow-M-O-T-I-O-N? Maybe a Chip Shot?
I haven't heard the Tape, but if you have time, maybe you can shed some light on this.
Gosh, I wonder how the people who revised the 7th edition missed this. Merely having some indication of the amount of pressure on the right forefinger to sense the Lagging Clubhead would be invaluable to help guide someone. I know from experience that dragging a wet mop places about 20 pounds of pressure on my right forefinger. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong??
Furthermore, PP#2 and PP#3 are contact points thru which the Clubshaft is Flexed during the Startdown. I wonder if ounces of pressure could do that or maintain the shaft flex thru Impact? Hmm?
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