best way to stay on plane

[shootin4par]

In your opinion what do you think is the best way to keep the back swing on plane, rft, stt? I seem to go a good job of keeping it on plane with a rft but feel as if there is no club face rotation

[birdie_man]

Depends what kinda Plane you want really.

I think the stock answer would be that a RFPickup naturally would be easiest to keep the club going up and down the TSP....

But then again Nicklaus I think did a STT on-Plane (with some right forearm lift in there too of course....doesn't work otherwise)....same with "old Tiger."

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And then again....a lot of people are Double Shifters/Single Shifters.

[EdZ]

In your opinion what do you think is the best way to keep the back swing on plane, rft, stt? I seem to go a good job of keeping it on plane with a rft but feel as if there is no club face rotation

One of the biggest reasons people get off plane is that they let their hands move 'out' on the backswing, usually right off the bat - rather than the hands going back, up and in.

This results in a 'lift and roll' move where the hands are too far outside, above plane, while the clubshaft and clubhead are likely too inside and underplane (visually).

Practice your takeaway with the shaft along a picnic bench, which will let you 'allow' the clubface rotation and still stay on plane - tracing a straight plane line

[lagster]

How many of you have actually built a PLANE(Plastic Sheet) like Mr. Kelley had?

[neil]

How many of you have actually built a PLANE(Plastic Sheet) like Mr. Kelley had?

I've got two dowels.Perfect if you know where to put them.

[jim_0068]

Plane Lasers...

learn how YOU have to swing to trace that straight line, however you have too.

[birdie_man]

Don't have a plane-anything.

I will point my club at whatever straight line I can fine....

Carpet line....cartpath line.....line/crack in the cement....etc.

[bts]

In your opinion what do you think is the best way to keep the back swing on plane, rft, stt? I seem to go a good job of keeping it on plane with a rft but feel as if there is no club face rotation

I would say stt, since the movement of the shoulders, especially in rotating, varies much less than those of the arms and hands.

[shootin4par]

thanks guys
and a question about the rfp,
do you try and keep your right elbow close to your side in the beggining of it so your right elbow bends, or do you just let it fly. In the RFP it feels like no club face rotation

[golfbulldog]

How many of you have actually built a PLANE(Plastic Sheet) like Mr. Kelley had?

Alot of fun to be had just standing in the plane! I listened to Homer on one of the audio downloads from Croker site and felt inspired.

Feeling the plane around takeaway , impact is pretty easy with a small plane board but feeling where it goes after impact towards finish swivel ... that made a difference. I had been steering and now have starting using finish swivel to get the shaft on plane again after impact.

Mine can be assembled or dismantled in 5 mins so no hassle to use really!