Vijay's 'Wrong' Move -- the Infamous Flat Right Wrist

[annikan skywalker]

Sorry....I have worked with several PGA Tour Players, LPGA Tour Players, and Champions Tour Playes...3 More made it through first stage today....All 3 have better alignments than VJ...Yes he's a great ballstriker...I still don't like his action...you can like it if you like...He just proves you don't have to swing the best to be one of the best...You can strike the ball well with a bad swing...and you can miss the ball with a great swing...As I said his 3 Stations look fine....Whenever the club is Parallel to the ground it should be parallel to the baseline (Shaft on the ground is parallel to his intended plane line...NOT THE SHAFT STUCK IN THE GROUND) his is pointing to the right at release and if the club were parallel to the ground at followthough it would be to the left....Right + Left = BENT


How would you rank these Pics??? VJ's Right Forearm points inside the PL....or above the plane angle of the shaft....Mac O'Grady is the only one that's dead on it....Close enough is only good for horseshoes and handgrenades...BTW...VJ is not even in Mac's league when it comes to "power- ball striking"....The only thing O'Grady lacked was knowing when to get out of the way of his own greatness....

[djd]

annikan- i'm having trouble seeing the clubhead/shaft in the mac and vj pics - could u circle them (on my monitor it looks like vj's clubhead is inline w/ his hands which i suspect must not be the case given your description) ... tway (is that him pic #8 ?) appears to be parallel to the baseline, but he also appears to be going vertical - losing flex in the knees - as well or did he start w/ little or no knee flex?

[annikan skywalker]

djd my friend,

The reason you cannot see the clubhead, sweetspot, clubshaft, #3PP, in line with the forearm is because they are perfectly aligned on-plane...Look where the hands are ...closer....Now on all the others ...one might be a little more in,a little more out, a little too high , or a little too low with the clubhead, sweetspot, shaft, #3PP, or the right forearm...only one has them all aligned...the one you are having trouble seeing...why? because "It is aligned...Perfectly"...Hope i've helped..if I need to I will post another sequnece if graphics overlayed so it will be more obvious....Shaft right + shaft left = BENT PLANE LINE

[djd]

djd my friend,

The reason you cannot see the clubhead, sweetspot, clubshaft, #3PP, in line with the forearm is because they are perfectly aligned on-plane...Look where the hands are ...closer....Now on all the others ...one might be a little more in,a little more out, a little too high , or a little too low with the clubhead, sweetspot, shaft, #3PP, or the right forearm...only one has them all aligned...the one you are having trouble seeing...why? because "It is aligned...Perfectly"...Hope i've helped..if I need to I will post another sequnece if graphics overlayed so it will be more obvious....Shaft right + shaft left = BENT PLANE LINE

annikan- i must be looking at the wrong thing ... i see in picture #1 (faldo?) that the shaft is pointed to left field and that in pic #4 (tiger?) that the shaft is pointed to right field but pic #3 (mac?) and pic #7 (vj) both appear to be more or less the same w/ the clubhead "covering" the hands in the down the line view ... i know i must be missing something here, pls help ... thx

[annikan skywalker]

VJ's clubhead is still inside his hand path and slightly below...look Southwest of his #3PP

[wanole]

So who's swing is in the best position? Is that Bob Tway (bottom middle)? Is that the look you are trying to achieve?

[12 piece bucket]

I don't like release,impact or follow-through intervals...looks like impact was executed with a swivel instead of a hinge action!!!!


The rest looks nice...you have nice looking swing VJ...

But those 3 frames are why you have to practice a lot...

Good Luck...Tiger is still the Best!!!!

I would agree on the Swivel . . . See frame 7. Dude needs to buy some clothes that fit too.

[birdie_man]

VJ's clubhead is still inside his hand path and slightly below...look Southwest of his #3PP

Dunno man....looks dead on to me in that pic. I don't understand how you can say VJ's shaft is pointing 10 degrees to right field...if anything, it's pointing LEFT of the green (but still parallel to his stance, as far as I can tell).....playing a push-fade (power fade) maybe?

The only thing I can see that's out of the ordinary is hos close his right elbow is to his hip.....but Hogan was like that too....

One other thing I think you should prolly take into account too is what kind of (natural) ballflight the golfer wants to have.

What do you guys think.

[annikan skywalker]

Mac O'Grady Top Center has the best alignments...why would you ever think Bob Tway???? his right forearm is cross-line and his club is on-plane but below the plane of his right forearm...This pictures are organized to show some "spectrums of differences or possibilities"...there is only one photo that is proper aligned then a close second and a third....so and so on...

I think its time to get the yellow book back out and learn some of thebasic alignments.....

Right forearm tracing the plane line....Mac O'Grady...

#3PP and the sweetspot on plane....Mac O'Grady....

Maintaining a stable and stationary post...Mac O'Grady....

Clearing the right hip/right elbow location...Mac O'Grady....

Maintaining proper spacing and sequencing of the pivot components...Mac O'Grady...

Guys if you cannot see that VJ's Shaft is pointing to the right of the baseline on the ground at release...and that the clubhead is low left of the Hand Path during the follow -through then I can no longer help you...perhaps a lesson with an Authorized Instructor might help...

I know what I see and what to look for...and what I see is XXX-rated....Right + Left = BENT

Good Luck!!!

[6bmike]

Tway is number two- not eight, isn't he?

As a photographer I never trust pictures. LOL. Are these video captures?

Can you explain the idea of BENT. What bends the plane line? The hand path? Seem to me that the clubhead travels in an orbit that intersects the plane line at one point, the ball, and would not be an indicator of wheather the plane line is straight or bent.

Questions for Knowleadge.

mike