Max Distance Hitting

[Jimbo]

Luke,

Earlier you mentioned that at one time you were a “switter”. Now you are a true 4 barrel “hitter”. Is the difference between the two just the amount of the #4 accumulator load or perhaps the amount of time #4 is loaded?

In my quest to learn hitting, this is the one thing that I keep flip-flopping on. The more #4 I put into it, the better I seem to hit (this is indoors into a net). I’m trying to use #4 just to get the right elbow back on plane so I can drive #1. Does this seem reasonable?

Jimbo…

[armourall]

OK Ted... any chance of you putting up a vid of your swing for the Hitters?

Charlie

I'll second that request!

[YodasLuke]

OK Ted, it's time we put this monster of a swing on the record. You told me about it when we chatted and I had a "I can't wait to see this...." thing going on. Then I saw Dana Quigley this weekend. I'm assuming he's not a TGMer. He had spit for a backswing, but could hold his lag forever in his forestroke. Kinda' holds hope for us older flexibility challenged.

Seriously, any chance of you puting up a vid of your swing for the Hitters?

Much appreciate all the efforts from you guys. Thanks.

Charlie

Yoda and I have discussed putting my hit, and many other things in video and stills on this site. I'll assure you that it will be done, and that it will be sooner rather than later. Yoda has been EXTREMELY busy writing posts, as you can see. I'm going to try to send one of my clips to one of the site administrators.
One thing that I've found that my computer will do much better than any of the video e-mail devices is the amount of frames that you can see. My computer will show 64 frames per second where most video streams come in 32 frames per second by e-mail. I'm sure it's the program that I use. (computer coach)
If any of you computer guys could provide any solutions, I'd be all ears.

[YodasLuke]

Luke,

Earlier you mentioned that at one time you were a “switter”. Now you are a true 4 barrel “hitter”. Is the difference between the two just the amount of the #4 accumulator load or perhaps the amount of time #4 is loaded?

In my quest to learn hitting, this is the one thing that I keep flip-flopping on. The more #4 I put into it, the better I seem to hit (this is indoors into a net). I’m trying to use #4 just to get the right elbow back on plane so I can drive #1. Does this seem reasonable?

Jimbo…

Jimbo,
When I first started seeking help, I was taught to be a swinger with an angled hinge action. My grip was never addressed and my left hand was very turned (strong) and bent. Furthermore, I was also taught to flatten my left wrist at the top of the swing or "end." Needless to say, I could hook a SW about 50 yards. All of this resulted in a "hold on for dear life" feel coming into impact to prevent the ball from putting on it's left turn signal. Most of my shots were hooks and pushes. The results were strictly dependent on my ability to keep the clubface from closing.

With all of that garbage in my past, I've become much more robotic. My body is extremely quiet. I feel as though my legs are stuck in concrete, almost zero pivot feel. My forearm is placed on plane as described in 7-3. I focus very much on extensor action as listed in 12-3, in most of my practice sessions. After the taking up of the slack (a slight bump in the startdown that loads #4), I try to drive the #1 pressure point into the ground. When I begin my practice sessions I'll monitor my hinge action in some basic strokes. I'll go to both arms straight a few times and hit some very low trajectory punch shots. With my past considered, angled hinging feels normal to me. Keeping my body from continuing to rotate did not feel normal. If the #1 pressure point is truly driving through impact, the #4 pressure point is being relieved of any pressure. In other words, #1 is pushing the left arm off the chest. That's why you can't be pulling and pushing at the same time.

Additionally, I never question someone's feel, but I will use video to find if "feel is real." The video never lies.

[DOCW3]

Yoda was remembering distances that I'd used in a few shots when we played together. I got a little crazy on a few holes and "NUKED" a couple. I'm purely hitting these days, and I play with VERY FEW people that are capable of hitting it past me. My distances are long for most...
LW 100
SW 115
GW 130
PW 140
9I 150
8I 160
7I 170
6I 185
5I 200
7W 215
5W 235
3W 255
DR 280 carry
These distances are with "normal" lag pressure. (the pressure with which I play-not trying to get crazy) In fact, I'll give you a short story that was really funny to me. When my distances started getting so high, I thought that my clubs must have been sent to me de-lofted. I went to the local equipment store and had them checked. My LW measured 60.5 and my SW measured 56.5. They were opposite of what I thought; they were actually half a degree weak.
...can't blame the extra distance on the clubs...have to blame it on YODA and TGM.

Would you identify your component variations for component #1 through #9?

DRW

[YodasLuke]

Would you identify your component variations for component #1 through #9?



Sure...
1. 10-1-A, Overlapping
2. 10-2-B, Strong single action
3. 10-3-A, Punch
4. 10-4-D, Four Barrel
5. 10-5-B, Square-Open
6. 10-6-B, Turned Shoulder
7. 10-7-A, Zero or No Shift
8. 10-8-B, Special
9. 10-9-B, Impact

[tgmer]

I believe Yoda mentioned before that closed-closed is recommended for hitter at advance level. Could you tell us why you are using a square open stance. I know it related to the person but is there any guides why someone will use square square, square open etc.. Any advantages on square open?

[EdZ]

You get that kind of distance with a 'punch'?

You must be a hefty fellow, I'd be curious to know how you hit it with a 'pitch'?

[YodasLuke]

I believe Yoda mentioned before that closed-closed is recommended for hitter at advance level. Could you tell us why you are using a square open stance. I know it related to the person but is there any guides why someone will use square square, square open etc.. Any advantages on square open?

Yoda does not recommend the closed-closed variation for hitting. I have talked to him, and he will comment further in this thread.

Regarding my personal square-open combination, the TGM player can change any stroke component to create a different result. Because of my open stance (10-5-B), I automatically create a Delayed Pivot (10-12-C). In other words, I have created a restricted backstroke (relative to the Free Turn of 10-12-A) and a free follow-through.

It gives me a very robotic feel, as if my legs are stuck in concrete. I almost have a zero pivot feel.

[armourall]

Yoda does not recommend the closed-closed variation for hitting. I have talked to him, and he will comment further in this thread.

Regarding my personal square-open combination, the TGM player can change any stroke component to create a different result. Because of my open stance (10-5-B), I automatically create a Delayed Pivot (10-12-C). In other words, I have created a restricted backstroke (relative to the Free Turn of 10-12-A) and a free follow-through.

It gives me a very robotic feel, as if my legs are stuck in concrete. I almost have a zero pivot feel.

Your preference for Square-Open has my attention, Ted. Personally, I've been migrating in the opposite direction toward Square-Closed. I'm looking forward to more comments from you and Yoda on this topic.