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Old 05-15-2010, 01:55 PM
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How far is your spine tilted forward at address? Kevin Carter gave me a lesson yesterday and all of a sudden on short pitches the shanks came on. He told me it looked like I was crowding the ball and I thought about it all morning. Hit balls again later and realized I was too close and standing too upright. Bend over, clear the right hip, less chance of collision and the hump the goat. Stand straight, raise right hand and let fall. It hits the right pocket. bend over, now it does'nt. The swing needs space.
Nice. The Delivery Path of the Hands like the Delivery Line of the Clubhead approaches Impact from the inside........inside to out as it must assuming they are traveling down an inclined Plane. Think about it from a down the line perspective. To go DOWN plane is to go OUT for all but perfectly vertical planes. This in to out path of the Hands needs a lane way cleared by the right hip or the brain will re direct the Hands out and around the "stuck right hip"......"roundhousing" resulting, divots pointed to the left , shanks etc. All due to the loss of the correct Angle of Approach and the proper Line of Compression. Read 2-C-0 to see how you need to take the ball DOWN and OUT not just FORWARD to hit it straight and long. Impact is ideally Three Dimensional. Down, Out and Forward. It'll seem cross line to the newly initiated but it will/should produce a straight divot. Keep thrusting down and out till the divots stop pointing to the left. If you dont feel like you are thrusting down and out , assume you arent.

The blur of the clubhead does not point at the target! No Sir!

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Old 05-15-2010, 04:14 PM
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Does the left hip have to slide forward over the left foot before turning out of the way? Does it feel like the weight slides to your toes on the left foot and then to the heel as you rotate your left hip back and is that what is meant by swinging from the ground.
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Old 05-15-2010, 06:29 PM
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You don't need to slide over the foot. You want to keep your weight on the inside. A little shoulder turn is unavoidable before you really start to turn. As long as your right shoulder (and your right arm doesn't bring your hands and club outside the plane you're OK.

Weight towards toe on front foot in the back swing. And towards the heel at impact.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebayne View Post
Does the left hip have to slide forward over the left foot before turning out of the way? Does it feel like the weight slides to your toes on the left foot and then to the heel as you rotate your left hip back and is that what is meant by swinging from the ground.
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You've really hit on an interesting thing here. Somebody wake Bucket up, we'll be talking goat humping here.

If you Slide, 10-14-B (but please dont look at the photos, they've really got to go) parallel to the Angle Of Approach as opposed to parallel to the Arc of Approach your weight will go out over your left toes. (If you're useing the Arc and Slide parallel to it , then your weigth will be less on your toes)

Now if you leave your weight on the toes and then Turn on top of that , you have moved your center of gravity closer to the ball! Another form of the Goat Hump sort of, which can also move the left shoulder, closer to the ball giving you some Radius issues.

So you gotta get your weight off your toes while your turning to keep your "ass on the glass".

Somethin Ted told me about.

"Swinging from the feet" or ground is kinda something different, see 6-M-1 The Downswing Sequence.

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Old 05-15-2010, 09:17 PM
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I don't wanna say I told ya so....But I Told ya So.

Just use a Hands Controlled Pivot Procedure.
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Old 05-15-2010, 09:23 PM
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I don't wanna say I told ya so....But I Told ya So.

Just use a Hands Controlled Pivot Procedure.
But I do, you idiet.

We're talking weight shift here. A Zone 1 problem that can influence the Radius and therefor the Hand Path. Even if you are Hands to Pivot previous to the Zone 1 intervention. As can a gust of wind, for that matter. Although you're not Hands to Pivot until the Hands control the wind.....Mike told me about that one.

"Cant you see me walking here", was not a Pivot to Hands problem, it was a car problem. You can be blind sided by your own pivot! A treacherous spasm that takes the #3pp off plane.

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Old 05-15-2010, 09:31 PM
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I think I've been goat humping for so long that it is ingrained into my swing and hand controlled pivot might be tough to accomplish. Which brings up another question, I've studied the drawings of angle and arc of approach but does hitting require one and swinging the other?
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Old 05-15-2010, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebayne View Post
I think I've been goat humping for so long that it is ingrained into my swing and hand controlled pivot might be tough to accomplish. Which brings up another question, I've studied the drawings of angle and arc of approach but does hitting require one and swinging the other?
Im normally vehemently opposed to any sort of thread digression but ......

Swinging is always Arc of Approach. Hitting can be either. Although someone once asked Homer if a Swinger could use the Angle of Approach and he said something like......"no, yes .....well he'd have a lot of compensations to make". Sorry.

The simple answer is that if you dont know what the Angle of Approach is your not using it. Its a bit of a weird duck. But the direction that it points is something for everyone to look at and understand , whether you use it, cover it or not!

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Old 05-15-2010, 09:56 PM
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It looks like Tiger has both arms straight in the last picture there. If that's the case, it's quite amazing...
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebayne View Post
I think I've been goat humping for so long that it is ingrained into my swing and hand controlled pivot might be tough to accomplish. Which brings up another question, I've studied the drawings of angle and arc of approach but does hitting require one and swinging the other?
Dude . . . keep up goat humping and you got no chance of hitting either one . . . . No chance of getting on the proper delivery line . . . . . Work on that first then worry about the theory stuff. You may intend to do one or the other but if your hands are that far out . . . you're basically off the plane angle and plane line.

Where do you club and hands generally "exit" on the thru side? High?
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