Losing secondary lever assembly

[12 piece bucket]

Yes my spine becomes more vertical and my shaft is more upright at impact and my hands are much higher. I have a tough time hitting the ball first. I used to try to practice the drill where you imagine your hands are under a shelf at address and come back under the shelf at impact. Good thing I was using some foam rubber. I usually feel like I have to lift my left shoulder up to my ear to make room for the club shaft at impact.

You gotta work on this . . . . I battled/battle the same thing. You do that move and you can hit the freakin' ball anywhere.

The reason I told you to get that 1/4 inch thick piece of plexey glass is so you can MAKE yourself hit the ball first. You can set it 6 inches back of the ball whatever at first. If you dump #2 early you'll crash the glass. . . won't screw your club up but it'll make you hit the ball first and keep your alignments.

Do you have a video camera? You need to really monitor your pivot. If you can get a microphone stand and a dowel and a pool noodle you can set that deal up so it rests on your head. You gotta figure out how to pivot with your head staying on the wall and your booty sliding on the wall behind you.

You can have the best wedge/power package alignments in the world but that goat hump is gonna disrupt everything . . . gets your plane line shifted and increases the rate your clubface closes . . . .disrupts low point as well.

FEELS . . .

• left shoulder down much longer as you come thru . .
• feel like your ass goes way back and your chest comes way down during your transition
• imagine or actually drill with a wall behind you . . . when you start down turn AND SLIDE your left butt check to the wall and forward of where it was at address.

You'll have to really exaggerate your practice swings . . . make sure you video to monitor it if you can . . . do a lot of slow motion drilling too. You fix this and you'll be amazed how much better your swing will plane and how much easier it will be to keep your wedges and hit the ball first. Go get 'em . . .

[innercityteacher]

You want to use the ground FOR A LONG TIME.

Is this why rolling the ankles and feet is better ala Jack/Hogan? It seems like that sort of action creates a "longer" chain of events that just forces the clubhead down-plane.

How does the hitter approximate this effect of unrelenting ground use? If I need to do this question elsewhere, no problem.




Here are a couple to check out . . .

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[JerryG]

IC
Pie Jesu? I would have thought something more Brahmsish with thicker chord Structure would have fit the bill.

[BerntR]

I've always struggled with uncocking my left wrist too early, and the more I try to hold that power accumulator 2 angle the tighter my left arm becomes. Any suggestions?
Thanks

Let me suggest an alternative approach to it. You need to feel your way into it. Educate your hands.

I don't think you will get there with "macro" alignments unless your hands know what it should feel like. When the hands do know - they will command the rest of your body to not do anything that releases the club premature. Or steers it from cocked to level.

I suggest that you do a lot of trial swings back and forth and focus on the sensation in your hands.

Midway in the down swing you want to feel a longitudinal rope pull. And absolutely no forces through the side of the grip.

You want to feel that the weight of the club and the clubhead lag keeps your left wrist cocked for much longer than today. It stays cocked because of the clubhead lag and not because you try to hold the wrist angle by muscle force.

You may feel that PP#2 torques the club to rotate. The club could want to increase the wrist cock but you don't have enogh flexibility in your left hand. As long as this happens without the wrist starting to uncock it is all right.

You can also use your right hand, and pressure point #1 (the palm of your right, that pushes on your left hand, to keep the wrist cock longer.

The whole motion is a "you can't catch me" (yet) thing. While the club tries to catch up and release, you move your hands to a new position where it stays cocked. Eventually you reach game over and get the snap release I'm sure you're looking for.

So hold on to the club, be loose in your hand joints and swing. Pull that "rope" in a direction that keeps the wrist cocked longest. It is easier to do it with a really whippy shaft because then the shaft will helpt to maintain the lag even if your hands don't. But you get the best practice with a stiff shaft and a long club, and also the clearest feedback when your hands start working the club in counter productive ways.

When you start to get a hang of it, you will feel it in your hands when the release starts to early. And soon you will learn that it happens because you cheat with your down stroke path. A typical hacker problem is to take a short cut almost straight towards the ball instead of going in a deep curve deep down behind the ball. A sub concious anxiety of slamming the club hard into the ground before impact may also prevent you from going deep enough with your hands.

You will also feel it when the right arm gets in the way and starts to muscle the release to early by pushing on the side of the shaft (pp#3). That can easily happen if you don't do a proper turn back and forth.

You can do trial swings with an easy swing. But it must be fast enough to produce dynamic weight forces that you can feel. And don't be afraid to crank it up when you start getting the hang of it.

You must:

* Believe that centripetal force will release the club for you as long as you don't try to force it to happen. (You most certainly try to force it to happen today).
* Believe that the club will release itself faster and more violently the less and the longer you don't lift a finger to make it happen. If you lead with your hands long enough you will run into an automatic release trigger and a very violent release is unavoidable.
* Believe that the club head will not dig deep into the ground before the ball even though you swing your hands so close to the ground that it is a distinct geometric possibility. Remember, when your club comes to the same place in the swing, your hands are long gone.
*Let go of the desire to control the club head. You want to be reckless and move those hands as quickly through the impact zone without waiting for the clubhead to catch up. Like a big brother who doesn't want to look out for his little brother anymore. If you don't wait with your hands and if you don't try to force the club head to catch up, the club head will catch up. It is really counterintuitive if you haven't trained your hands with the right feel.
* In other words: Swing and monitor your hands and let the club take care of itself.

If you haven't done it before - if you haven't ingrained the right feel for it - it will feel really reckless. Just swinging the hands through and not being in control of the club head. That's what it will feel like. It's a good thing then, to monitor the hands and not the club.

[12 piece bucket]

You want to use the ground FOR A LONG TIME.

Is this why rolling the ankles and feet is better ala Jack/Hogan? It seems like that sort of action creates a "longer" chain of events that just forces the clubhead down-plane.

How does the hitter approximate this effect of unrelenting ground use? If I need to do this question elsewhere, no problem.




Here are a couple to check out . . .

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In those swings look at Hogans shins, ankles and hips . . . backswing/transition kinda like a "hockey stop" weight right but leaning left . . . his WHOLE BEING is gripping the ground . . .

Have a look at this . . .

[stevebayne]

I am a skier instructor in Utah and when I looked at the Hogan video that is what his right leg and hip looked like to me. A skier angulating in a turn. I went out and hit some chip shots with that feeling and trying that pivot you guys were talking about and it was the first time I could actually hit the ball and then brush the turf. I also found a good video that gave me good insight to the pivot.

. Don't know how to make it a link but it was at golfresearch.com.
Thanks again

[BerntR]

The skiing comparison seems relevant. Quite similar weight shift and also similarities with foot work vs upper body work.

Not only with the back foot but also with front foot from impact to end.

[12 piece bucket]

The skiing comparison seems relevant. Quite similar weight shift and also similarities with foot work vs upper body work.

Not only with the back foot but also with front foot from impact to end.

Hockey stop to a high jump . . .

[O.B.Left]

I've always struggled with uncocking my left wrist too early, and the more I try to hold that power accumulator 2 angle the tighter my left arm becomes. Any suggestions?
Thanks

These are all good suggestions.

Have you tried the Aiming Point procedure? You'll notice you dont Release Early when there is no ball there but in the presence of the ball we tend to throw the club early for some reason. The aiming point replaces the ball, your not looking at the ball anymore. Try an aiming point a few inches on the target side of the ball with a mid iron and see what happens.

[dodger]

How far is your spine tilted forward at address? Kevin Carter gave me a lesson yesterday and all of a sudden on short pitches the shanks came on. He told me it looked like I was crowding the ball and I thought about it all morning. Hit balls again later and realized I was too close and standing too upright. Bend over, clear the right hip, less chance of collision and the hump the goat. Stand straight, raise right hand and let fall. It hits the right pocket. bend over, now it does'nt. The swing needs space.