Vijay's 'Wrong' Move -- the Infamous Flat Right Wrist

[birdie_man]

As I understand Swinging... only a Swinger could have much success with a right hand Position like this at IMPACT.
Couples also does something very similar.

A Hitter, ideally NEEDS, and USES the #1 Pressure Point, but Swingers do not necessarily need it here.

Good point....that makes sense.

[archie swivel]

How can he hit the inside aft quadrant of the ball with the bottle there. I sometimes put a bottle BEHIND the ball so that I don't come over the top.

[phillygolf]

As a sports photographer let me just say this- any picture of VJ with his right hand coming off the club will always be chosen by an editor. Watch VJ on TV when he is in the last group and you may not see that right hand leave the club even once. He does this far less then people think.

And in the pictures when he does- that right hand is still behind the shaft.

Mike - I agree to an extent!

At impact, Vijay's right hand is still on the club! Now, post impact (what is that 1- 1 millionth of a second?), his right throws but his educated left hand still is flat!

Holy crap...that's unreal. Very strange. But why does that happen??

Best explanation I have hear is from Mr Brian Manzella a few years ago. He is hitting it as hard as he can with his right hand, but his educated left hand remains flat.

Makes sense to me!

Vijay is perhaps the best power ball striker on tour - Tiger included. Yoda's post is excellent!

Could you imagine having the power and accuracy he has????

Scary!

[annikan skywalker]

Check this OUT!!!!

NO WONDER he has to "hit a lot of balls"...

Would you teach this to your child....I won't even let my 18 month old daughter see this "XXX-rated stuff"...At least she knows how to paddle-wheel the "Right - Forearm Flyin Wedge"...

He's figured someting out I never could....Make a lotta $$$$$





Club looks a little under here....then the Right elbow can't clear the right hip....so what happens next....Roundhousing???? is his forearm on-plane at impact or above??? My forecast....ABOVE!!!

BTW ...my opinion for the right hand off the club ..is he used to swing a little more cross-line to right field w/ a hint of throwaway...now swings more on-line and has never re-educated his right wrist alignments...but as you say...at least one hand is "educated"...Good for you VJ...your 1/2 way there!!!!

[birdie_man]

Why is this XXX rated now?

What's Vijay doing wrong?....errr "wrong" (lol....I mean, I'd take his wrong moves- whatever they are).

[annikan skywalker]

Birdie my man ....Look at the picture...

Club below plane ...right elbow to the side of the hip...tailbone movin under "early"...He's gonna toss it ...Just like the other pictures reveal...

I'll post the entire sequence later...

VJ's swing only looks good naked eye and at Address, Top, and finish...which Ironically is the 3 Stations...Impact is not a station...

BTW...it's only opinion...mine..it's XXX-rated..two thumbs down

[annikan skywalker]

Check it out!!!!



I don't like release,impact or follow-through intervals...looks like impact was executed with a swivel instead of a hinge action!!!!


The rest looks nice...you have nice looking swing VJ...

But those 3 frames are why you have to practice a lot...

Good Luck...Tiger is still the Best!!!!

[tongzilla]

Vijay's club isn't really off plane between release and follow through. He is just using the Elbow Plane.

Who thinks the Elbow Plane is more of a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure? (note I did not say you have to be using pivot controlled hands if you're using the elbow plane).

One thing I've always pondered about: if you're really using the Aiming Point properly, which is basically a Hands Controlled Pivot concept, why would you perform a shift on the downstroke? It's not like you're aiming your hands to shift down and then towards the ball. Aiming Point = straight line from the top to the ball. So if you're doing it properly, there shouldn't be a shift on the downstroke. Comments from anyone?

[annikan skywalker]

Tong ..with all due respect...

The club is below plane and pointing 10 dgrees to right field in frame #5...then all of a sudden he's pointing parallel and begining to bend it left...checkout his clubface to the plane in frame#7....He's demonstrating "bending the plane line right before our own eyes"....Besides the #3 PP, the right forearm are NOT in line with the Sweetpot at Impact Frame #6 This inside at release ...left at follow-through is the culprit to his pulls hooks when he hits it poorly...

[wanole]

I don't see what is really wrong. He has a bent right wrist and flat left at impact and the a full roll after. His right hand probably comes off because he rolls so hard thru and doesn't hold on with his right hand.

I don't see how you can tell from that pic if there isn't a hinge action. He's one of the best ball strikers on tour. I think I would take his action any day of the week.

PS. VJ doesn't have to practice that much to stay as good as he is. He is just a perfectionist.