How to Draw?

[Daryl]

Daryl,

I have a ton of stuff of yours in my swing post compilations, this will be a great addition.

You make stuff like this so easy to understand with your pictures.

You are AWESOME!!!

Thanks Man!

Kevin

Thanks Kevin, I don't know if you're aware or not, but the Swingers Alignments rely on what we call "Hinge Action". Unless you "Horizontal Hinge" you should use the Hitters and Hand Manipulators Alignments.

[Etzwane]

Yes, you've got it but keep in mind that the Clubface is Closed because the Ball was moved forward. If I need more than a 15 Yard Draw then I also need to Rotate my Grip but I continue using the Swingers Alignments.

The Alignments and Ball flight are very predictable as they are using Hitters Alignments. Small Amounts of Adjustments produce small curves. What I like most about using the Swingers Alignments is that it has "Fine Tuning" and you can dial in the exact amount of Divergence.

Will try ! Thanks again for your great contributions !

[Max Impact]

I hurried to put this together so here's the first try. Draw Alignments for Hitters and Swingers.

My copy is a 5th Edition, and most of the text that you posted is NOT in it. Guess I need at least a 6th Edition.

The only problem I see with that geometry is that if the clubface is aligned at the target, when the clubhead's direction of travel is not, during impact, then the ball will curve too much, ending up on the other side of the target.

Correction: That text IS in my book. It must have been "hiding". I still have no idea what it means.

[KevCarter]

The only problem I see with that geometry is that if the clubface is aligned at the target, when the clubhead's direction of travel is not, during impact, then the ball will curve too much, ending up on the other side of the target.

Wouldn't that be true with anybody's ball flight laws, old or new? Pretty basic concept, even for us literalists.

Kevin

[John Graham]

Wouldn't that be true with anybody's ball flight laws, old or new? Pretty basic concept, even for us literalists.

Kevin

Actually Kevin, according to the old laws that would be a push draw that would land at the target.

These pictures clearly show a draw that crosses the target based on the 'new' laws.

[KevCarter]

Actually Kevin, according to the old laws that would be a push draw that would land at the target.

These pictures clearly show a draw that crosses the target based on the 'new' laws.

I stand corrected. I guess I am only seeing things using the new laws, not a bad thing I guess.

Thanks John,
Kevin

[John Graham]

I stand corrected. I guess I am only seeing things using the new laws, not a bad thing I guess.

Thanks John,
Kevin

Yep that is a very good thing.

[Daryl]

I thought that "Physical Laws" don't change.

Why are they called "New Ball Flight Laws"? Will there be a "New and Improved Ball Flight Laws" introduced in the near future? Is there a term "Old Ball Flight Laws"? Who named the "Original" Ball Flight Laws - "Ball Flight Laws"?

Shouldn't we try to understand all of the "Laws" that affect Ball Flight? Has someone outlined "All of the Laws" that are included in the new "Ball Flight Laws"? There can't be more than a dozen. Is anyone willing to jot them down and Post them?

If we eliminate the Plane Line from the equation, it "becomes" OK to swing "Over the Top" as long as a compensating Clubface Angle exists when the ball is struck. I suppose a teacher can tell the student "Hey, those are the new Laws, live with it". ??

One thing is becoming increasingly clear to me. "Trackman" uses a whole lot of calculations but doesn't measure target Alignment. It doesn't measure the Players set-up nor does it determine if the Player is Swinging On-Plane. I'd say that eliminating the Plane line from the equation is pretty convenient for "Trackman".

[John Graham]

One thing is becoming increasingly clear to me. "Trackman" uses a whole lot of calculations but doesn't measure target Alignment. It doesn't measure the Players set-up nor does it determine if the Player is Swinging On-Plane. I'd say that eliminating the Plane line from the equation is pretty convenient for "Trackman".

A few things.

The day any human lines the club face accurately to a target over 100 yards away will be the day.

The day any human can line up parallel to anything using their own perceptions will be the day.

The machine is aimed at a target.

What's the margin for error due to pixel size is a valid one?

I don't know the answer to that but I've asked.

You'd also be incorrect in that Trackman doesn't measure a plane line.

It measures(not calculates) it relative to the target that the machine was aimed at.

JG

[Daryl]

It may be aligned down the target line but the day that Trackman can measure the Alignment of the Swing Plane and draw the Base Line of that Inclined Plane is the day I buy one. I'll buy two of them. No more golf instructors.

I'm saying that if it could measure and Plot the Orbit of the Center of Gravity of the Clubhead and Sweetspot Plane, then overlay that onto the Target Line, we won't need Golf Instructors anymore. We may need Psychologists to convince us to get off the Golf Course once in a while. We will also need Marriage Councilors.

If it was somehow possible to connect that gizmo to the Golfing Machine some chicks voice might say something like "Please use a little more #4 Power Accumulator". I could live with that.