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Wwell I said that the statement about assuring the hips are being cleared was not in the fourth edition, then you said " no whip it goes all the way back to the first" my point was that that statement is not in the fourth.... Just trying to clarify that in fact the originally posted statement was not stated in all editions, I thought you were refuting that by saying "no whip that wording goes all the way back to the first.." I thought you were referring to that statement, that wording about the assuring the clearing of the right hip because that was the only wording I was referring to. I am sick hence easily confused and also why I have been posting so much!