LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - swinging and hitting Thread: swinging and hitting View Single Post #51 10-07-2010, 10:06 AM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by BerntR I agree. I think I know what kind of stroke you're talking about here. It is not what I do when I need to get over a three, but I often do something like that from the bunker when I have a perfect lie. I also driveload around the green from time to time, something I used to do a lot before. It was a good way to tame the lag pressure from the pivot before impact. BUT it is a physical fact that it can only be such a thing as a pure Drive Loading if the left shoulder is the swing center. You can't have a stationary head, shoulder rotation and pure drive loading. Perhaps what you describe feels like pure driveloading. The drag loading will certainly be toned down enough to be even more effortless than effortless. But as long as you turn the shoulders you are also drag loading. Whether it feels like it or not. Your distinction between pivot motion and pivot work is misleading. In a proper stroke there will be pivot work when there is pivot motion. The question of drag loading is a more or less situation. It's as simple as that. That goes for both shoulders by the way. But I guess we can save the work done by the hitters right shoulder for another thread. And the work done by the swingers right shoulder too. Full Sweep Release is a Release right from Top, no Delay. The problem inherent with Drag and Drive at the same time is that they are not similarly aligned.........two horses one pulling one way the other pushing a slightly divergent course. Homer tried to separate them as best he could. (12-1 vs 12-2). One associated with Radial Acceleration the other with Longitudinal which are mutually exclusive. One pushing on the aft of the shaft the other pulling on the Top, with divergent vectors. One pushing the left hand off the inclined plane and inducing Release the other dragging the left hand down plane in its turned to plane and non #3 firing manner. Homer was right to separate them they are in conflict when executed at the same time. So if its truly impossible to fully zero out the pull of the left shoulder (produced by the push of the Right Shoulder and the Pivot) then you must tone it down, way down for Drive Loading 12-1. Easy to do in Basic Motion , harder in Total. I think this is the reason guys with terrible Pivots like Drive Loading so much..........their Right Shoulders dont push down plane and so they are left to just their Right Arm to get the job done. Or you can separate them sequentially in your Downswing, which is what I do.....Drag then Drive . A Right Shoulder Throw (slow and easy one) which tends to Delay Release, followed by a Right Arm Throw which induces Release. You can go to End when doing this if you wish. But this isnt 12-1 anymore of course. Last edited by O.B.Left : 10-07-2010 at 10:10 AM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left