LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - swinging and hitting Thread: swinging and hitting View Single Post #46 10-06-2010, 07:11 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by BerntR I know 12-1-in-text is 100% driveloading. But 12-1 in flesh is driveloading and drag loading, IMO. The driveloading will reduce the significance of the drag loading, but I don't see how it is possible to zero the drag loading for a golfer. I agree that they are 12-1 and 12-2 aree about as far apart as they can be. But I don't see it as a physical possibility to drive without dragging. I agree. And when with two hands on the club and a non-zeroed pivot you get drag loading in addition to the drive loading. If you're a good hitter you will get it in spades. I'd say that a Three Barrel Drive Loader (12-1) who stops at Top can Drive Load right from Top. It'd be a Full Sweep Release but it would be pure Radial , Drive Loading on the aft of the shaft. I could see this shot with a wedge for going over a tree or something similar. The 12-1'r who goes past Top all the way to End has a problem. He cant Drive from End , not at the Aiming Point anyways. He's aligned himself for Drag Loading by loading the knuckle of the top of the shaft. From there he can Drag his way out of there......but then he isnt 12-1 anymore or he can realign himself for Drive Loading by "bouncing " the club back to a Hitters Top (undo some #2 Angle Radially , get the Hands at Top with the #3pp on the aft of the shaft and ready to sense the drive loading). The 12-1'r who stops at Top but wishes to Delay Release can/should employ the Pivot (the Right Shoulder) to take his fully loaded Right Elbow and Hands downplane. But this is Pivot Motion as opposed to Pivot Work........the Drive Loaders Slow initial Startdown. It is not Drag Loading by definition similar though it is, as it isnt powerful enough to Load anything. It doesnt Load the knuckle or bend the shaft along the Top of the Shaft. Its a means of transportation or delivery of the fully loaded power package to its Release Point. It isnt even Longitudinal Acceleration as the club is not being pulled inline like a Rope Handle. 12-1 Drive Loading vs 12-2 Drag Loading. The difference is in the Direction of the Loading (aft of shaft vs top) and the procedure for accelerating the club , the secondary lever. Radially or Longitudinally, they are mutually exclusive. Rope Handle pulling vs Axe Handle pushing. As an aside the advantage of Longitudinal is that there is no tendency towards CF Throwout as its purely inline......once the Hands start moving in a curve the clubhead passes to the outside of the Hands and you're into CF Throwout, Radial Acceleration, Release of #2 Angle. Those swings we admire so much like Hogans and Yoda's have a lot of Straight Line Hand Path and the associated "arrow from quiver", Rope Handle, Longitudinal acceleration that Delays Release until the Hands reach the bottom of their straight line path. I think. Maybe. How am I doing here? Last edited by O.B.Left : 10-06-2010 at 07:18 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left