LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Start Up Swivel Thread: Start Up Swivel View Single Post #35 10-07-2009, 11:54 AM Bagger Lance Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,326 Originally Posted by laangels Bagger, When you talked about your LCT, with the right wrist being held vertical during the takeaway, how long do you keep that relationship before you let the left wrist rotate to plane? Do you find that this motion does not allow the right elbow to remain still while performing the startup swivel? I struggle with getting underplane so lagging the club a bit has helped me trace a little better (and added a bit of float loading to boot), but I just wanted your opinion on this and what alignments you created from it. I know this is a bit of an old thread, but it's still a goodie Thanks LA - Yeah, oldie but goodie is something I'm becoming more and more familiar with, but thanks for resurrecting this one. I think I know what you are saying. I still like to lag the takeaway a bit before turning. Keep in mind that the left shoulder/left arm wedge is in motion during the backswing and the action of the right forearm takeaway assists in bringing the left wrist to plane without any intentional turning of the wrist taking place, so you can lag the entire flying wedge structure and still get some turning. The active turning of the left wrist during this process will by necessity move the right elbow. You can't maintain the flying wedges alignments without adjusting right elbow position back and inward when fanning the clubface with the left wrist. I think the key to all of this is tracing the plane line during the backstroke with the #3 pressure point while simulataneously fanning the clubface with the left wrist. If the right elbow is in motion during this process it musn't disrupt the tracing. Keep digging! __________________ Bagger 1-H "Because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made available - but separately, and probably endlessly." Homer Kelly Bagger Lance View Public Profile Send a private message to Bagger Lance Find all posts by Bagger Lance