[Mathew]

I want to do a video on this because its a difficult to grasp part of my findings but I think I need a textual answer to this also.

When I said that all strokes roll to the plane, thats not entirely true.... I just said it to basically not enter into a whole maze of debate which I will unleash on you now..... Im not opening two cans of worms at once... Another reason I stated it was because I wanted to bring to your attention the dynamic nature of wrist conditions....

I wanna talk about the roll of the hands through impact.

With the onplane flail of 2K there seems to be some problems with transitioning into a vertical flail as described in 2K as you go into followthrough because of the release point on the downstroke and how the wrist conditions dynamically adapt with the rolling of the left hand in accordance to the precise location to the orbit around the left wrist. You see the problem is if you use the vertical flail phylosophy is that it disrupts the rate the clubhead orbits around the left hand because in a vertical flail model the wristroll has to work simultaneously with any wristcock motion. You can't have the rate of the clubhead around your left wrist is going at one rate and then another....

Thats when it hit me when I asked what if I took a conception from 1-L too literally. Lets say the accumulator 3 plane left club and hand where only mean't to be inline at impact then from this inline condition (see standard flail 2-K) preform a hinge action. So you would have a designated place for your hand into come into impact to a point that would mirror the vertical flail at impact vertical to the ground for all strokes but then doing different things from that point.... You see that would change everything - if the inline condition wasn't at the lowest point of the orbit (in relation to its center and not the lowest point to the ground plane - Mike O) directly under the left shoulder where all hinge actions would go to the same point like in the 1-L model.

Where the flail comes inline to that point of impact you then on the second half part of this orbit you can produce a hinge motion using the last remaining two wrist conditions wristcock and wristbend with the left wrist and hand to keep the club onplane. The left wrist and hand are still going to be vertical to their associted plane however however the rate of the clubhead around the left wrist has not changed. This is going to give different types of 'followthroughs' in the PGA manner of the word just like Tiger when he's trying to shape particular shots. Providing you use two axis of rotation around a point you can a use lever like a golf club inside any location within a spherical shape and thus using these two motions keep the club onplane whilst the third is 'locked' its relationship to the associated plane of the hinge action.

So after impact wristbend ?????? - wow this is fun and contraversial....lol

Your alternative is you can also keep your swivel motion rate either side to the flail mirroring the vertical flail at impact point but this will produce only a singular hinge motion.... a closing motion of the clubface thats speed is entirely determined by release point of the number 3 accumulator so you better have alot of trust to physics to produce the same result over and over which I believe and correct me if I am wrong - is what Ben Doyle tries to do in his model by means of regulating the roll by always going to maximum trigger delay.... however the left arm on the otherside when it bends after followthrough (GM definition) will oppose the inclined plane exactly the same when preforming a hinge action like I said in the videos.