[davel]

I am using plane training to feel the body pivot. Without the laser I have found that when I pivot my body back without the lasers I end up under the plane at the top of the swing. If I do not think pivot I end up moving the club without a sufficient pivot in the backswing. My hope is that the repetive motion willl sink into the brain.I don't expect to be perfect but closer than where I have been. I can feel a lot of what is happening with my hands and where they are going while doing the exercise.

Dave

The thing is that focus should be on feeling lag pressure (feeling the sweet spot with PP #3). Then tracing your chosen plane line with PP#3. Doing so means a laser would be on plane. But with feeling the sweet spot you have total focus where it needs to be. A focus that you can have when ACTUALLY PLAYING. As you can't have a laser when playing. And the dowels do a have sweet spot that can be felt in the hands.

If you want to make sure your not off in your tracing I guess a laser would be OK in a limited fashion. But the bottom line is most people would start to focus on the laser and not on clubhead feel (you may be unique). Worst case scenerio, people think that if they trace enough with a laser, they will eventually always be on plane (even with a golf club). And that is just silly as there is no muscle memory - each shot is a test - the clubhead must be felt and directed each shot.