LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - The Tomasello Tapes -- Chapter Five / Power Thread: The Tomasello Tapes -- Chapter Five / Power View Single Post #116 05-31-2007, 12:57 AM SECGolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Duluth, Georgia Posts: 110 Originally Posted by 6bmike You miss the point about Hula Hula- the hips move without the shoulders moving. If the shoulders don’t move – How can the hands be moved by them? They can’t. HULA HULA only moves the hips - nothing else. Please get that point correct. Independent movement from shoulders. Let the Hands grip the club at this point. I spoke of PIVIOT LAG - I didn't talk about Clubhead Lag. You load Accumulator Lag on the backstroke. Crank start the Downstroke by loading Pivot Lag – at least according to Homer Kelley. Only now can Clubhead Lag PRESSURE be obtained. You don’t order it, you don’t think it. You load it. You load that Clubhead Lag PRESSURE (different from hands ahead of clubhead alignment which most the world only sees as Lag) only by loading your Accumulators and Pivot Lag. And Lag Pressure is inert- you don’t let the hands move it. Accumulators move them to prevent throw-away The Pivot Lag is the crank of the “gear train”, the explosion of the launching pad. It is part of Educated Hands. Educate them. Get away from a pivot control take-away (shoulder turn and standard hip action) and use a Right Forearm Take-away. Remember the Magic? The gear train sequentially drags its preceding Component. And you say this is pivot control? Homer was wrong I guess. Once the Hands are Educated- they are Clamps with sensors. I find that many are afraid to pivot because of the Hands control the Pivot axiom fearing that they are now pivot control- baloney. If you don’t pivot, throw darts. One last point you don't see- the hip action doesn't move the hands off the incline plane. Hula Hula doesn't create a hip/Hand relationship. I'm afraid you misunderstood the word -lead. Lead in this context only means “ahead of- or comes before.” It does not mean steer or bring in a line. You underestimate your Hands. In swinging, lag pressure is initially obtained by "throwing" the Club against the Lag Pressure point at the top for drag loading (or with start down motion for Float Loading). I don't think initial club head lag, or the club head's resistance to motion, is established "only by loading accumulators and pivot lag" Just hold a club up, the hands can feel the dead weight of the club head. Just because something is inert does not mean you don't move it. You move it or direct it at the plane line via the hands (always both aiming and thrust). Hip action that is not guided by the hands most certainly may move the hands off plane (too little or too much slide). Certainly, you can train the pivot to be nearly correct all the time - but why in the world take the chance? Get the correct pivot all the time by moving the hands, and letting the pivot respond. (note immediate response of the pivot that can indeed produce delayed hip action). I'm not picturing a movement of the hands, then a while later, movement of the hips - the action is an immediate response by the pivot. 5-0 "The hands are the 'Command Post' for all feel processing. As the stroke proceeds they dictate to the Feet as certainly as they dictate to the club "(meaning all other aspects of the stroke). Hands dictate, if the hands dictate, all other aspects can only respond. SECGolf View Public Profile Send a private message to SECGolf Find all posts by SECGolf