[thackrad]

I do not think of swivel or roll in the takeaway, those are bad news concepts for me, as I tend totake it back too far inside. I instead trace the plane line with my right forearm. Everything else responds and at the top I am on plane. If conscious elbow bending or rolling occur, I get off plane. Others probably have much better explanation, for me, less is best for backswing thoughts.

Roger, when you trace the plane with your rt forearm, does your rt elbow stay pretty much in place, (so that your rt hand moves aft of your elbow)?