LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Ted Fort 10-5-E, 2-J-3 Visual Equivalents Thread: Ted Fort 10-5-E, 2-J-3 Visual Equivalents View Single Post #17 07-23-2006, 01:36 PM YodasLuke Lynn Blake Certified Master Instructor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 1,314 closed clubface Originally Posted by Bendet2 Actually that helps a great deal, thanks Ted. A couple of other things that are still murky for me, I believe that it is mentioned that in Hitting one should used a progressivly closed clubface at address for longer and longer shots, I understand the rationale but closed compared to what? the plane line? Also, which plane angle do you prefer to use in your pattern? Turned shoulder (10-6-B)? Thanks for your patience Ted. Tim No worries. I happy to help, when I can. The Clubhead has a Line of Flight. And, the ball has a Line of Flight, which is dependant on Clubface. The ball always leaves at a right angle to the Clubface, so the Clubface must be square to the ball Line of Flight at separation, not the 10-5-E Plane Line. It's a dilemma for the novice Hitter, as most want to keep the Clubface square to the Plane Line. Even if they start correctly, they'll steer to match the two Lines of Flight. It seems rather instinctive. And, yes, I do use 10-6-B. __________________ Yoda knows...and he taught me! For those less fortunate, Swinging is an option. YodasLuke View Public Profile Send a private message to YodasLuke Visit YodasLuke's homepage! Find all posts by YodasLuke