LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Yoda: Your Thoughts on new 12-2-0 Thread: Yoda: Your Thoughts on new 12-2-0 View Single Post #3 06-05-2006, 11:44 AM Yoda Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 10,681 The Rotated Shoulder Turn And the 7th Edition Originally Posted by tongzilla Yoda, What are your thoughts on the new 7th edition Basic Swinging Pattern (12-2-0)? I'm most interested in the change to Roated Shoulder Turn (rather than Standard), Random Sweep Loading (rather than Snap), and Auto Sweep Release (rather than Non-Auto Sweep). Thanks! Tongzilla, I'm pressed for time before the Barclays, so I can't respond in depth now. And I don't yet have the book for any ancillary explanation. So for now, let me say that I think the Rotated Shoulder Turn -- which was not a change in the very accurate 'bootleg' 7th Revisions and Additions -- is problematic because: 1. Its Shiftless Hip Turn (10-14-C) is incompatible with the Slide Hip Turn (10-14-B) variation now designated in the Stroke Patterns; 2. The Shiftless Hip Turn permits no weight Shift, Axis Tilt or Line Delivery Path; 3. It requires a precise Waist Bend in order to locate the Turned Shoulder Plane (and hence give Pivot support to the Power Package); 4. It conflicts with the Basic Motion Curriculum's Flat Shoulder Turn (12-5-2 #2) -- which has a problem of its own (should have been designated 10-13-D, in my opinion); and 5. Homer Kelley's view in his taped Master Classes was that the Rotated Shoulder Turn is useful in the Short Shots but not necessarily otherwise. I would appreciate it if you would put up your own thoughts and expand on mine as you see things. Thanks! __________________ Yoda Yoda View Public Profile Send a private message to Yoda Visit Yoda's homepage! Find all posts by Yoda