LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Ball Flight "Laws" Thread: Ball Flight "Laws" View Single Post #13 11-18-2005, 08:44 PM Martee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lenoir, NC Posts: 573 Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket I think it's the DEGREE of open or closed clubface in relation to the plane line that determines how much hook or fade. Annikan . . . Excellent post... As for scientific evidence, there seems to very little that addresses this issue in english. Most noted instructors that I have come across that use the Ball Flight Laws really use it at a very coarse level and on full swings, no putters. I long ago gave up on these discussions since there are two camps for sure and none can account for all the variables, the loft, speed, directional vectors, etc. __________________ Good Golfing Martee Martee View Public Profile Send a private message to Martee Visit Martee's homepage! Find all posts by Martee