[Mike O]

Tongzilla Quote:"
This was the reason for my confusion: I've seen a post from Yoda somewhere that says
"both Swinger and Hitter 'Crank', i.e., at Start Down, each tightens the Left Side Tension that supplies the initial Pull of the Downstroke."
Yoda does not mention that this initial pull is only experienced by the four-barrel Hitter with the new acc#4 (as opposed to a three barrel hitter), which was what you were saying in your previous post, correct?" Unquote

Most of what you quote Lynn above, is really his place to clarify, etc., and Lynn is very, very good, so if he finds it important and has the time, he'll explain any question you might have.

However, I would clarify a couple of things that you said.
Yes, I was talking about adding #4 to a three barrel (1,2,3) Hitter. Using #4 or not, really is the basic determination of whether you are a 4 barrel Hitter. Remember that using it means that you're loading it - not just going through the motions.

In addition, you said "this initial pull is only experienced by the four-barrel Hitter with the new acc#4...."
You don't really want to use the term pull- for a number of reasons. Pull is swinging and now we're using the term for Hitting- not good. If you look at 2-M-4 or 6-B-4- Homer doesn't use the term pull or push for #4 accumulator, it's always for Hitting or Swinging- Thrust or Acceleration, etc., the basic nature of accelerating #4 is the same for both Hitting and Swinging- in the mechanical sense (6-B-4 & 7-13). The Pull (Swinging) or Push (Hitting) are broader concepts for the overall procedure and not appropriately used in regard to the #4 accumulator. Of course, the whole thing (Hitting or Swinging) is drastically different and there are subtle differences between the two different #4 accumulators as a result of the context of the whole movement i.e. different loading procedures create different feels etc. Don't ask me to explain the subtle differences- practically speaking I don't think it's that important and I'm subconsciously aware of them but without some effort - wouldn't be able to answer your question. Plus, I never Hit. Not saying I don't know how, and not saying it's not a great procedure- I just don't use it.

Finally, every now and then I make some basic disclosures for clarification purposes.
1) I'm always open for interpretation or correction- no one's perfect.
2) I'm always giving only my viewpoint, not necessarily "THE GOLFING MACHINE VIEWPOINT"- and I'm always trying to be precise in the terms and help you or others understand the concepts of the Golfing Machine as I see them. That precision/clarification/viewpoint could be interpreted as nitpicky (yes), cocky (not the intent), or attacking (not the intent). I've been around enough that I think most to everyone understands that- but when you're not in person with someone - one on one- and you're using the forum to correct other peoples concepts, based on your viewpoint- it can get a little awkward. I've always approached it as if I was on the otherside and with my personality I would disregard any perceived issues and really appreciate the "direction". That said Tongzilla, as someone alluded to earlier in this thread- you are doing a nice job of picking up the concepts - a lot of progress!