P/p #2

[brownman]

Good post HB

[O.B.Left]

It's an interesting question. I'd say that assuming one or two accumulator chipping which I personally take to mean no number 2 accumulator then too much pressure at the #2 pp would imply to me too much pulling at the #2 pp which would be accompanied by too much lag pressure at the #3 pp. In other words you're applying too much power for the shot at hand. Lag pressure being associated with power regulation.

Other than that I can't see a problem with too much "attention" to the #2 pp when chipping. It sounds like swinging chipping to me.

There's a distinction to made between the pressure points and the like numbered accumulators. I can feel # 1 when swinging chipping assuming I'm using #1 for extensor action and/or assuming I'm using the #1 (or a reverse #1) for my RFT. Uh that's a whole other topic maybe, the reverse pressure points which Homer discussed but didn't write about.

Couldnt one sense all the pressure points to some degree even for a one accumulator shot? Even though only one of em has the associated power accumulator in use?

There's a distinction to be made between grip pressure and pressure points too. #1 pp has no active grip pressure or very little and # 4 pp isn't even in the hands.

I personally feel the #2 pp is most alive or loaded during drag loading rather than left wrist cocking. When the pivot pulls, the handle via the last three fingers of the left hand down plane with the left wrist turned to plane.

[brownman]

It's an interesting question. I'd say that assuming one or two accumulator chipping which I personally take to mean no number 2 accumulator then too much pressure at the #2 pp would imply to me too much pulling at the #2 pp which would be accompanied by too much lag pressure at the #3 pp. In other words you're applying too much power for the shot at hand. Lag pressure being associated with power regulation.

Other than that I can't see a problem with too much "attention" to the #2 pp when chipping. It sounds like swinging chipping to me.

There's a distinction to made between the pressure points and the like numbered accumulators. I can feel # 1 when swinging chipping assuming I'm using #1 for extensor action and/or assuming I'm using the #1 (or a reverse #1) for my RFT. Uh that's a whole other topic maybe, the reverse pressure points which Homer discussed but didn't write about.

Couldnt one sense all the pressure points to some degree even for a one accumulator shot? Even though only one of em has the associated power accumulator in use?

There's a distinction to be made between grip pressure and pressure points too. #1 pp has no active grip pressure or very little and # 4 pp isn't even in the hands.

I personally feel the #2 pp is most alive or loaded during drag loading rather than left wrist cocking. When the pivot pulls, the handle via the last three fingers of the left hand down plane with the left wrist turned to plane.

O.B. Sorry friend,Im not sure how to "QUOTE" just one paragraph without the entire post,luckily,The relevent point is in 1st paragraph,lol,you say that too much #2 would involve too much pulling of the club,initself is correct,but my "FEEL" involves this,...if I activate #2 by itself (in chipping),it tends to assist the clubhead into impact zone,to get what Im talking about,hold club in L/hand and give some pressure to last 3 fingers,hopefully you may see what Im on about.
But,Im not forgetting my original query re-too much #2,I do believe that has been answered,thanks again,I rely on your input.
Im trying to adopt TGM lingo,Im learning....Thanks again BM

[O.B.Left]

O.B. Sorry friend,Im not sure how to "QUOTE" just one paragraph without the entire post,luckily,The relevent point is in 1st paragraph,lol,you say that too much #2 would involve too much pulling of the club,initself is correct,but my "FEEL" involves this,...if I activate #2 by itself (in chipping),it tends to assist the clubhead into impact zone,to get what Im talking about,hold club in L/hand and give some pressure to last 3 fingers,hopefully you may see what Im on about.
But,Im not forgetting my original query re-too much #2,I do believe that has been answered,thanks again,I rely on your input.
Im trying to adopt TGM lingo,Im learning....Thanks again BM

Ah increased grip pressure at the #2 pressure point.

Grip pressure , pressure points , power accumulators they're related but not the same thing .........

I like a firm grip at the last three fingers of the left hand and at the middle two on the right hand, Hogan style, personally. Well when using my full shot grip as opposed to say a putting type grip with the #3 accumulator zeroed out. Chipping with that grip would normally be for longer chip shots.... longer than 25 yards or so but yes the last three fingers of the left hand are alive with grip pressure and loaded by the pulling . Assuming Swinging chipping ... most likely 4 and 3 in terms of the Power Accumulators if Im using that grip. Two accumulator Swinging chipping in other words.

The "putt chip" with the putting grip for short one Accumulator type chip shots can have a more even grip pressure in the hands. It being a more delicate and precise operation. Gripping down on the shaft (shortening the lever) and zeroing out the #3 angle add considerably more control over distance / lag pressure regulation. We do it when putting why not when short chipping?

Consider the sand wedge, for instance , when chipping with it you're chipping with a club that is designed to hit the ball up to 90 or 100 yards . It makes sense to dial down that potential power by gripping down and zeroing the #3 angle , softening the grip pressure in addition to just shortening the length of the swing. "Machine Adjustments" for added precision and power regulation. Most chips are too long or too short rather than too far left or right. Distance control is job one.

[dlam]

I feel more PP4 PP2 for my iron shots.
Then when I have woods I tend to feel PP3, and PP4, PP2

I never consider PP in chipping because there is so many chipping type strokes, but if I had to think about pitching and some of the shorter swings, I feel that i do use PP1 in a lot without the the other PPs

[BerntR]

Pressure sensing in pp#1, #2, #3 are all three keys for me in controlling the dynamic loft of the club through impact as well as power - as far as chipping is conserned. I basically hit those shots with the pivot, and no accumulator #1, #2, #4 release. The only accumulator used is accumulator #3, which is required to produce a rhythm without steering. Sensing #1 and #3 has a lot to do with power regulation, while #2 has a lot to do with rhythm and dynamic loft.

[dlam]

Now that I think about it, one of the key difference between my long game and short game is PP1.
I am a swinger and my right palm is off the grip at impact.
whereas for almost all my short game shots I use PP1 exclusively to feel my distance control.

[HungryBear]

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I am a swinger and my right palm is off the grip at impact.
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?? Discussion please. ???

HB

[dlam]

My left arm controls much of my swing
I rely heavily on feeling PP 4 and PP2
My right arm assist and I feel a lot of pressure over the right middle/ring finger when I fade
Depending on my setup I can also feel the pressure over right index finger or left thumb
My swing is such that I do not feel the palm of right hand putting pressure on my left thumb or the shaft

[MizunoJoe]

?? Discussion please. ???

HB

This is an alternate way to keep from slowing down the handle through impact, rather than doing it the correct way.