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Old 09-17-2005, 10:51 PM
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Re: Dif'rent Strokes
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It seems that Swinging is more "left side oriented." Is there an effective way to teach Swinging in a "right sided" fashion without the swing center becoming the Right Elbow instead of the Left Shoulder?
The Right Shoulder acts as a flywheel and spins Down Plane from the Top to provide the initial acceleration. This tightens the left side tension and provides the Left Arm Blast off and Momentum transfer for the Swinger.

But there must be no active Right Arm Drive-Out Action for Swinging.

The drill in this post may help:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...ghlight=#10952
I read that drill the other day! Good post. Good drill. I understand the flywheel action . . . but I just have better results with my mind on my hand versus my mind on my right shoulder. I like to focus on my Right Forearm Flying Wedge. I'm convinced I'm a much better chipper one handed than with two!

But I know that Swinging has more to do with "aiming" PP3 contrasted with the all out frothing at the mouth driving of PP1 and PP3. I love to focus on driving the entire RFFW.

Maybe with Swinging you can "sling" the RFFW?
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:20 AM
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Hitting and Swinging

Golf---Accelerating the Club radially with Right Arm Thrust is Hitting. Accelerating the Club longitudinally, with either Arm, is Swinging.


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Old 09-18-2005, 06:17 AM
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Re: Dif'rent Strokes
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I read that drill the other day! Good post. Good drill. I understand the flywheel action . . . but I just have better results with my mind on my hand versus my mind on my right shoulder.
Thanks 12 piece!

I think it's always important, especially when one is working on a new component, or figuring out a new concept into their swing, that they keep in mind the final destination/goal/target of what they're trying to achieve. What's this 'holy grail'? It is when the Hands no longer consiously Monitor the Clubhead or Body -- only themselves, and automatically dictate total Component compliance with Delivery Path and Plane Line requirements.

So spinning the flywheel is important for the Swinger. Getting the Right Shoulder On Plane and Down Plane is important. It's important because that's what should be happening. And it's good to get a consious sensation of the above activities, especially when you're learning. But for optimal performance, monitor the Hands!

And when you get real good, the intended Ball behaviour could be all the consious programming you'll need to do!
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Re: Dif'rent Strokes
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What's this 'holy grail'? It is when the Hands no longer consiously Monitor the Clubhead or Body -- only themselves, and automatically dictate total Component compliance with Delivery Path and Plane Line requirements.
What a fantastic statement, tong ! The hands train, the body complies. You only need to go back to the pivot if it needs to be re-train/re-programmed. The hands, the structure of the incredible Flying Wedges, is what counts. A clamp? Yes, a “wired” clamp.


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Getting the Right Shoulder On Plane and Down Plane is important.
When Ted pointed his truth gun at me, his handy dandy camcorder, I saw my right shoulder shoot out and down the swing plane- or so I thought. I was throwing my right shoulder far off plane.

You should not throw the FRONT TOP of your right shoulder down the incline plane, but rather slide the bottom back of the shoulder down the incline. Sort of more like a feet first on your back slide down on a children’s slide than a head first sitting up-right slide down.
At least that is my ‘seems as if” and I sticking with it. “10-14-B and Weeeeeeeeeeeee!”
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Re: Dif'rent Strokes
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Originally Posted by tongzilla

What's this 'holy grail'? It is when the Hands no longer consiously Monitor the Clubhead or Body -- only themselves, and automatically dictate total Component compliance with Delivery Path and Plane Line requirements.
What a fantastic statement, tong ! The hands train, the body complies. You only need to go back to the pivot if it needs to be re-train/re-programmed. The hands, the structure of the incredible Flying Wedges, is what counts. A clamp? Yes, a “wired” clamp.


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Getting the Right Shoulder On Plane and Down Plane is important.
When Ted pointed his truth gun at me, his handy dandy camcorder, I saw my right shoulder shoot out and down the swing plane- or so I thought. I was throwing my right shoulder far off plane.

You should not throw the FRONT TOP of your right shoulder down the incline plane, but rather slide the bottom back of the shoulder down the incline. Sort of more like a feet first on your back slide down on a children’s slide than a head first sitting up-right slide down.
At least that is my ‘seems as if” and I sticking with it. “10-14-B and Weeeeeeeeeeeee!”

See the Tomasello video "The Pivot" for the "stick behind your back pivot drill".....it addresses the same issue.

You want an "On Plane" right shoulder for the downswing (10-13-D)....perform the stick drill in a mirror.....then go watch Tomasello student Jodie Mudd's swing sequence on Brian Manzella's website and watch Jodie's "On Plane" right shoulder.

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