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Old 09-25-2010, 10:25 AM
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Why couldn't a swinger use right arm thrust ?

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Old 09-25-2010, 11:10 AM
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Extensor Action is a Non-Accelerating Thrust. Use as much as you can. Although it doesn't Accelerate the Clubhead directly, it contributes to precision of the Accumulators.

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Clubhead Lag (7-19) promotes even and steady acceleration, assuring dependable control of distance. The Power Package utilizes four types of Thrust:
  1. Accelerating (Accumulators driving the Lever Assemblies)
  2. Non-Accelerating (Extensor Action supplying Power Package Mass)
  3. Acceleration Control (Lag Pressure Point sensing Clubhead Inertia)
  4. “Centrifugal Acceleration” (Centrifugal Force pulling the Clubhead toward its In- Line condition)
Hmm?, there is that 4 Barrel Swing thing.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Extensor Action is a Non-Accelerating Thrust. Use as much as you can. Although it doesn't Accelerate the Clubhead directly, it contributes to precision of the Accumulators.



Hmm?, there is that 4 Barrel Swing thing.
Could you please explain Daryl?
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:33 PM
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The Accumulators, Cocked Left Wrist, Right Hand Roll, Left Arm Across the Chest and Bent Right Arm, are out-of-line conditions. But regardless of their degree of out-of-line, they need to maintain their Alignment to the Plane.

Each Accumulator may Release in a Sequence, #4,#1,#2,#3. They may be omitted or Overlapped. Each will Release On-Plane and continue Tracing the Plane Line. Left Arm Blast-Off, Thrust On-Plane; Right Arm Thrust, On-Plane; Left Wrist Uncock, On-Plane; Right Hand Roll, On-Plane.

Extensor Action keeps the Primary Lever Aligned and adds Rigidness to the Power Package so that it doesn't collapse during the Pivots powerful rotation and cause the Release of any or All of the Accumulators to move Off-Plane.

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Old 09-25-2010, 01:49 PM
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Thanks, so after all that I take it your answer is yes I could use right arm thrust as a swinger?
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Old 09-25-2010, 02:33 PM
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Thanks, so after all that I take it your answer is yes I could use right arm thrust as a swinger?
You're still a swinger if CF uncocks the Left Wrist. The Right Forearm is driven by the Pivot.
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Old 10-02-2010, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jerry1967 View Post
Why couldn't a swinger use right arm thrust ?
"Swinging is Pulling and Hitting is Pushing and thats all."

It is possible to Pull, (Pitch Elbow) and Actively extend the Right Arm. If the Right Elbow leads its pulling isnt it?

Right Arm Swinging. Its not the safest of Right Elbow alignments, tending to muscle tear. You wouldnt pull a car by attaching your right hand to the side of the car and attempting to throw it forward. You wouldnt throw a shot putt. But it can be done for golf. Homer said it was a "beautiful" method, but he also warned of its potential for elbow injury. Not a certainty by any means but there is the potential.

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Old 10-02-2010, 07:17 PM
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"Swinging is Pulling and Hitting is Pushing and thats all." O.B. Left ......
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Old 10-02-2010, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
"Swinging is Pulling and Hitting is Pushing and thats all."
Swinging is pulling and pushing.

Hitting is pulling and pushing.

The difference between the two is .... different.
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
Swinging is pulling and pushing.

Hitting is pulling and pushing.

The difference between the two is .... different.

I do agree that most Hitters have some pulling going on, Bernt. But not necessarily all of them. And so , I think to be perfectly accurate you'd have to change the "is" to "can be" in your statement above.

Drive Loading is Pushing and Drag Loading is Pulling and thats all. To paraphrase Homer Kelley. Axe handle vs Rope Handle , Radial vs Longitudinal.

Homer was careful to make the distinction between Drive vs Drag in his "bare bones" identification of the alternate Basic Patterns of 12-1 and 12-2. He didnt label them Hitting and Swinging, after all. 12-1 isnt the only way to Hit but its the bare boned fundamental , Push only place to start. A place from which to graduate and build upon or a place to happily stay forever. Its up to you. There's nothing wrong with 12-1 somewhat rare though it is. Homer thought we'd all become Drive Loading enthusiasts actually. He loved it that much. Most of us dont give it enough of a chance maybe. Perhaps its hard to turn off all the pulling we've been doing previously. Perhaps its the pivot centric golf magazines or the effects of acid rain? I dont know.

There is an account of Homer on a driving range , asking an early A.I. to show him Hitting. When the man took it past Top to End Homer stopped him and insisted that he stop at Top........this was something that puzzled me as I always go to End when I hit. I've since concluded that Homer wasnt looking for just any Hitting pattern but rather he was expecting 12-1. Drive Loading. He did expect his A.I.s to teach 12-1 after all not just gloss over it. And in that case , Drive Loading from End is not a good idea as you have to wait for your Hands to get back to Top, on the top of the straight line Delivery Path before they can start to Drive. They need a clear straight line shot at the Aiming Point. Its a beautiful and simple pattern.

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