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06-27-2005, 10:41 PM
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Thanks Yodasluke,
That makes sense to stop the right shoulder after it picks up momentum so that it can function as the back of the cannon from which the right arm can thrust downplane. Can you tell me about how far does the right shoulder move down the turned shoulder plane before it stops? Thanks in advance! 
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06-27-2005, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
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Thanks Yodasluke,
That makes sense to stop the right shoulder after it picks up momentum so that it can function as the back of the cannon from which the right arm can thrust downplane. Can you tell me about how far does the right shoulder move down the turned shoulder plane before it stops? Thanks in advance!
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I believe the right shoulder thrusts until the right elbow gets on-plane, at which time the shoulder thrust stops and the right arm thrust takes over.
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06-28-2005, 01:57 PM
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Thanks Matt! I have never considered that but I'll give it a try. If nothing else it should prevent overacceleration. 
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06-28-2005, 03:00 PM
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downplane shoulder
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
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Thanks Yodasluke,
That makes sense to stop the right shoulder after it picks up momentum so that it can function as the back of the cannon from which the right arm can thrust downplane. Can you tell me about how far does the right shoulder move down the turned shoulder plane before it stops? Thanks in advance!
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Make sure it's as short as possible, then make it shorter. The only way that I was able to get it was to use zero pivot for about two weeks. It's much harder to make it too short than to allow it to travel too far.
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06-28-2005, 03:08 PM
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Re: downplane shoulder
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
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Thanks Yodasluke,
That makes sense to stop the right shoulder after it picks up momentum so that it can function as the back of the cannon from which the right arm can thrust downplane. Can you tell me about how far does the right shoulder move down the turned shoulder plane before it stops? Thanks in advance!
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Make sure it's as short as possible, then make it shorter. The only way that I was able to get it was to use zero pivot for about two weeks. It's much harder to make it too short than to allow it to travel too far.
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Would it make sense to see where the right shoulder is at impact fix and move it to that point on the downswing and stop? 
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06-28-2005, 03:58 PM
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Re: downplane shoulder
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
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Thanks Yodasluke,
That makes sense to stop the right shoulder after it picks up momentum so that it can function as the back of the cannon from which the right arm can thrust downplane. Can you tell me about how far does the right shoulder move down the turned shoulder plane before it stops? Thanks in advance!
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Make sure it's as short as possible, then make it shorter. The only way that I was able to get it was to use zero pivot for about two weeks. It's much harder to make it too short than to allow it to travel too far.
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Would it make sense to see where the right shoulder is at impact fix and move it to that point on the downswing and stop?
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Sure...
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07-10-2005, 09:43 PM
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Dear Ted,
How active is your left wrist when it goes from FLV at impact to flat uncocked and vertical at low point as you drive down to Bejing? 
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07-11-2005, 10:28 AM
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uncocking left wrist
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
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Dear Ted,
How active is your left wrist when it goes from FLV at impact to flat uncocked and vertical at low point as you drive down to Bejing?
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There was a time that I had to think about uncocking the left wrist, but it was only because I had been taught that lag was created by holding on for dear life. I had, originally, a bad concept. The drive loading should uncock the left wrist, but mine did not. I used basic motion to get the feel of the uncocking wrist. In my total motion I feel as if the golf club is telescoping away from my chest. I have a constant feeling of DOWN until the end of follow-through.
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07-11-2005, 07:01 PM
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Re: uncocking left wrist
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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There was a time that I had to think about uncocking the left wrist, but it was only because I had been taught that lag was created by holding on for dear life. I had, originally, a bad concept.
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I think that there are a lot of people who have this "bad concept", myself included, in an effort to prevent throwaway. I think that it prevails because it makes almost logical sense ("If I hang on to that angle, then I won't throw it away!"). That's what makes quality instruction so important!
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07-11-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: uncocking left wrist
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
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Dear Ted,
How active is your left wrist when it goes from FLV at impact to flat uncocked and vertical at low point as you drive down to Bejing?
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There was a time that I had to think about uncocking the left wrist, but it was only because I had been taught that lag was created by holding on for dear life. I had, originally, a bad concept. The drive loading should uncock the left wrist, but mine did not. I used basic motion to get the feel of the uncocking wrist. In my total motion I feel as if the golf club is telescoping away from my chest. I have a constant feeling of DOWN until the end of follow-through.
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Ted,
Could you please give us a bit more on how you trained yourself to get to fully Uncocked? I think this is something that very few do or even know the importance of. FULL LEVER EXTENSION is where it's at. I'm still trying to get there, but it seems to take a lot of work and trust.
Please school us more.
Muchas!
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