Under Plane Corrections - Departure from TGM Geometry?
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03-12-2009, 10:13 PM
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Fish and Swimming Lessons
Originally Posted by riles
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. . . it is still quite helpfull to realize that the CLUBHEAD route is still on a semicircled path[with you at its center]......back and through.
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When I work with PGA TOUR players, I expect the ball to fly long and true. That is why they are PGA TOUR Players.
That said . . .
They do have problems, as do you and I.
Unlike us, these guys rarely lose Lag. They know how to keep their Left Wrist Flat (Imperative #1) and relentlessly stress the Shaft (Imperative #2). As a result, they have no problem belting the Ball to the back of the range and beyond. Almost always then, their 'Swing' problem (which often includes their 'Putting' problem) lies in Direction and Plane (Imperative #3).
When I stand behind a PGA TOUR player, I am aware of his Motion (and its idiosyncrasies), but I give it only a passing glance. This guy can stress the shaft though Impact, and the ball explodes. He knows it, and I know it.
What I'm looking for is On Plane consistency:
Is the Club's Start Up Path and Release Path identical (8-4)?
Shot after shot, THAT is what I'm looking for. All too many times, the two paths are different.
Then, I ask myself "why" . . . and what must happen to reconcile the two.
That is where the magic lies.

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03-13-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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When I work with PGA TOUR players, I expect the ball to fly long and true. That is why they are PGA TOUR Players.
That said . . .
They do have problems, as do you and I.
Unlike us, these guys rarely lose Lag. They know how to keep their Left Wrist Flat (Imperative #1) and relentlessly stress the Shaft (Imperative #2). As a result, they have no problem belting the Ball to the back of the range and beyond. Almost always then, their 'Swing' problem (which often includes their 'Putting' problem) lies in Direction and Plane (Imperative #3).
When I stand behind a PGA TOUR player, I am aware of his Motion (and its idiosyncrasies), but I give it only a passing glance. This guy can stress the shaft though Impact, and the ball explodes. He knows it, and I know it.
What I'm looking for is On Plane consistency:
Is the Club's Start Up Path and Release Path identical (8-4)?
Shot after shot, THAT is what I'm looking for. All too many times, the two paths are different.
Then, I ask myself "why" . . . and what must happen to reconcile the two.
That is where the magic lies.
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Great inside look bossmang . . . .
Could you speak to the benefits and ball flight ramifications of the start up pant and release path being identical. I think there are many "pop" instructors that claim to know plane . . . even right books about plane that haven't a clue . . . i.e. ones that fix giant basketball players and tell them to pick it up and drop it underneath.
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03-13-2009, 02:51 PM
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Simplicity
Originally Posted by Yoda
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When I work with PGA TOUR players, I expect the ball to fly long and true. That is why they are PGA TOUR Players.
That said . . .
They do have problems, as do you and I.
Unlike us, these guys rarely lose Lag. They know how to keep their Left Wrist Flat (Imperative #1) and relentlessly stress the Shaft (Imperative #2). As a result, they have no problem belting the Ball to the back of the range and beyond. Almost always then, their 'Swing' problem (which often includes their 'Putting' problem) lies in Direction and Plane (Imperative #3).
When I stand behind a PGA TOUR player, I am aware of his Motion (and its idiosyncrasies), but I give it only a passing glance. This guy can stress the shaft though Impact, and the ball explodes. He knows it, and I know it.
What I'm looking for is On Plane consistency:
Is the Club's Start Up Path and Release Path identical (8-4)?
Shot after shot, THAT is what I'm looking for. All too many times, the two paths are different.
Then, I ask myself "why" . . . and what must happen to reconcile the two.
That is where the magic lies.
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Gotta love anything that makes it simpler. That is what I see every time I watch the video of Yoda and Brian Gay working together. Great stuff!
Kevin
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03-13-2009, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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When I work with PGA TOUR players, I expect the ball to fly long and true. That is why they are PGA TOUR Players.
That said . . .
They do have problems, as do you and I.
Unlike us, these guys rarely lose Lag. They know how to keep their Left Wrist Flat (Imperative #1) and relentlessly stress the Shaft (Imperative #2). As a result, they have no problem belting the Ball to the back of the range and beyond. Almost always then, their 'Swing' problem (which often includes their 'Putting' problem) lies in Direction and Plane (Imperative #3).
When I stand behind a PGA TOUR player, I am aware of his Motion (and its idiosyncrasies), but I give it only a passing glance. This guy can stress the shaft though Impact, and the ball explodes. He knows it, and I know it.
What I'm looking for is On Plane consistency:
Is the Club's Start Up Path and Release Path identical (8-4)?
Shot after shot, THAT is what I'm looking for. All too many times, the two paths are different.
Then, I ask myself "why" . . . and what must happen to reconcile the two.
That is where the magic lies.
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"On plane consistency" -- so that is what seperates the champion from the challengers.
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