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Old 01-19-2009, 04:40 PM
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I have always admired Yoda's takeaway and dearly want to crack its code. He has said he personally admired and cracked Billy Caspers takeaway, so I mention this in the highest form of flattery manner.

In the very, very good Brian Gay premium video, Yoda talks about Extensor Action takeaway. In which the #3 pressure point (as opposed to #1) takes the flat right/bend left wrist of adjusted address to a bent right/flat left impact hands condition, with the flying wedges established. This is part of the lagging takeaway procedure normally associated with a swingers motion.

He uses his #3 to sort of snap the hands into their impact condition with the clubhead making its way back ,up and in while the shoulders and left hand stay relatively still. This is in stark contrast to the push away of the hands by the rocking shoulders as in the old "rock the triangle" type deal.

My question is this. Is that solely an extensor action on display there or is there a little fanning and bending of the right arm and elbow too? Didnt I read that extensor action shouldnt take the club away? Im thinking there must be some fanning and bending too, but not sure.

What ever it is its beautiful. Makes we want to go back to swinging.

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Old 01-19-2009, 05:20 PM
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I have always admired Yoda's takeaway and dearly want to crack its code. He has said he personally admired and cracked Billy Caspers takeaway, so I mention this in the highest form of flattery manner.

In the very, very good Brian Gay premium video, Yoda talks about Extensor Action takeaway. In which the #3 pressure point (as opposed to #1) takes the flat right/bend left wrist of adjusted address to a bent right/flat left impact hands condition, with the flying wedges established. This is part of the lagging takeaway procedure normally associated with a swingers motion.

He uses his #3 to sort of snap the hands into their impact condition with the clubhead making its way back ,up and in while the shoulders and left hand stay relatively still. This is in stark contrast to the push away of the hands by the rocking shoulders as in the old "rock the triangle" type deal.

My question is this. Is that solely an extensor action on display there or is there a little fanning and bending of the right arm and elbow too? Didnt I read that extensor action shouldnt take the club away? Im thinking there must be some fanning and bending too, but not sure.

What ever it is its beautiful. Makes we want to go back to swinging.

OB
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I don't have the answer, but I agree, it's a beautiful thing. Did you notice that this week at Hawaii Brian Gay switched to the mid body hands address position, and used the straight right wrist takeaway that Yoda was teaching him in the video? Cool stuff. A little added bump for this thread, I would love to hear YODA's response!

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Old 01-19-2009, 06:47 PM
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I missed it, that's a surprise!

Was he still thrusting? Hard to tell I know.

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Old 01-20-2009, 01:48 AM
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Ok I just watched the Brian Gay premium video again for the second time today (bought it this morning, man he has a nice simple action and Yoda is on fire too)

Also reread 6-B-D-1 Which states that Extensor action stretches but does not move the left arm. Also when EA is applied via pp #3 it pulls the club and left arm in line.

Therefor I was wrong to say that Extensor Action does not take the club back since it is possible to employ it through pp #3 and snap the left wrist flat in a lagging startup without moving the left arm. The clubhead moves but not the left arm. An effective method for short shots, chipping. Didnt Hogan do this? The other method being to start in fix with EA via #1.

But there is a little something to Yodas full swing lagging takeaway that Im still chasing. Maybe this #3 EA relates? Hmmmm

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Old 01-26-2009, 08:52 AM
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Is Brian's vedio mostly on swinging? For a hitting guy, is it helpful?

Thanks in advance.
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Is Brian's vedio mostly on swinging? For a hitting guy, is it helpful?

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In my uneducated opinion, Brian demonstrates both very well in the video even though he is primarily a swinger and appears to not really care for hitting. Great video for both types of motions, I learned a lot from it.

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Old 01-27-2009, 02:46 AM
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I have always admired Yoda's takeaway and dearly want to crack its code. He has said he personally admired and cracked Billy Caspers takeaway, so I mention this in the highest form of flattery manner.

OB


Here is Casper DTL anyways. Not showing what I was alluding to in the first post but nice all the same.




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Old 01-27-2009, 03:07 AM
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Here is Billy Casper from the front view. This is what Im talking about. Lagging takeaway for sure, look at the shaft bend going back! Like he's hitting an impact bag on the backswing.

Also looks like he is clearing his right hip. Maybe getting left a little too! Is nothing new anymore?

But the thing Im really wondering about is the fast snap of the wrists into the impact hands position. Beautiful. Is this extensor action via pp#3 doing this with some RFT fanning and bending too? Or EA with #3 and then rft SEQUENTIALLY? I guess it must be since extensor action does not move the left arm and the hands seem to stay put for a bit there. Or is there something else going on?

Nice whatever the heck it is. Swinging early.

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Old 01-28-2009, 12:34 AM
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Do little green guys have their secrets too?
Here's Yoda hitting a little acquired motion shot here. He's starting from fix, so not so much in the way of lagging takeaway here. You'd see that on longer shots though were he starts from adjusted.

But still there is something I cant quite articulate that is so great. Like the clubhead appears to moving the hands almost? The club head is swinging early? The hands are kind of still but the clubhead is moving? It cant be hand action, thats for sure!!! It is the antithesis of "rock the rigid triangle", one side is shortening/bending thats for sure.

Is it extensor action via #3? An rft with the #3 pressure point on the right index finger tip, pulling? Something going on with the pressure points Im thinking. He feels it.

He knows, he said he cracked Casper's takeaway. Its beautiful, but what the heck is it.....what is he doing?

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Old 01-31-2009, 10:51 AM
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I think it's just Yoda's plain Jane (but brilliant) good old RFT as per he teaches day in day out.

Yoda's motion is just incredible IMO. I could watch that driver video all day. I'd love to see him put up a load of footage of himself hitting various shots from various angles, including driver, full irons and 3/4 wedges. I had never seen a swing anything like his prior to seeing it for the first time.
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