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Old 11-08-2007, 12:50 AM
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I am starting to feel that balance is actually the very core of the swing and hence fully deserving it place as an essential ... not merely some afterthought... but as an active conscious part which we should seek to use.
The Golfing Machine begins and ends with Balance.

Per the 45-item Mechanical Checklist of All Strokes (12-3-0):

12-3-#1 Stance and Balance;

12-3-#45 Body Position and Balance.

And per 1-L:

"Off-balance force is notoriously erratic."

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Old 11-08-2007, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
The Golfing Machine begins and ends with Balance.

Per the 45-item Mechanical Checklist of All Strokes (12-3-0):

12-3-#1 Stance and Balance;

12-3-#45 Body Position and Balance.

And per 1-L:

"Off-balance force is notoriously erratic."

Thanks Yoda, balance envelopes the swing, but I guess that you are not convinced that it drives the swing... i shall continue my experiment with B.D.O.P.F.A. Swing and report back wih results...I will withdraw my threat of further balance threads until i have more evidence....I suggest not holding your breath....
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:10 AM
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Is it the person who should be in balance or the club that should be in balance?
Tiger Woods tells us in “How I Play Golf” - “Let’s start the full swing by setting the club into motion correctly. Notice I said the club, not your body. The reason you’ve worked hard at positioning your body the right way is so it can transport the club on the proper path and plane throughout the swing”
If Tiger is correct then concentrating on the body parts and their positions may be studying the effects not the cause. Could it be that the imperatives of the golf stroke are encapsulated in the dictates of the club, not the dictates of the body? Is so, what are the imperative precision alignments of the club during the golf stroke and are they observable and/or measurable in Iron Byron?
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:31 PM
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"balance driven / on plane force aware"
Re-order the words

"force driven on plane/balance aware"

and I think it has a more tangible meaning.

Balance, imho, is not a driver but the desired result of an efficient motion made by a well organised, cohesive and co-ordinated G.O.L.Fer.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:07 AM
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Balance is Zone 1
9-0 Zone 1 Body Control: Pivot Body Balance

Pivot Rules

Practice pivot until balance is maintained.

This is essential.

Pivot Rules!
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Burner View Post
Re-order the words

"force driven on plane/balance aware"

and I think it has a more tangible meaning.

Balance, imho, is not a driver but the desired result of an efficient motion made by a well organised, cohesive and co-ordinated G.O.L.Fer.
Old school view Burner!!! Come the revolution...

Just wait.... your out-dated bourgeois views regarding balance will need to be reprogramed....

Maybe...
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by strav View Post
... Could it be that the imperatives of the golf stroke are encapsulated in the dictates of the club, not the dictates of the body? Is so, what are the imperative precision alignments of the club during the golf stroke and are they observable and/or measurable in Iron Byron?
Not sure about Iron Byron...but the prime consideration of the movement of the club( shaft/head/face...and hence sweetspot) is the heart of TGM - no doubt.... but the club movement is permitted by the body... interacting though lag pressure.

Nobody argues that a club moving in an unbalanced fashion will NOT cause the body to become unbalanced ...but why not use balance to move the lag pressure... and then see how the club moves... i suspect that it will be moving as Tiger would like...

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Old 11-09-2007, 11:37 AM
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I found this quote by Yoda on another site...
my underlining and bold and italics...


"As Bobby Jones once wrote, "There is no virtue that cannot be exaggerated into a fault."

Per 7-17, the Address Position loading of the Feet is an even distribution between both Feet but with enough on the heels to allow the toes to be lifted up momentarily without altering the distribution between the toe and heel.

Throughout the remainder of the Stroke, the player's sense of balance and force rules. Per 1-L, "Off-balance force is notoriously erratic. The mechanical device has no balance problem but the human machine does, and mastery of the Pivot (Zone #1) is so essential for good Golf.
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I feel that an active balance sense is key part of zone 1 training but should not replace primacy of the hands in playing.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog View Post
Old school view Burner!!! Come the revolution...
There's no position quite as secure as an entrenched one.

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Just wait.... your out-dated bourgeois views regarding balance will need to be reprogramed....
My views change daily and depend on scores achieved rather than logic or reasoned argument; neither of which have proved to be more reliable in my case.

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Maybe...
Only when the power swings to the extreme left Brother.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
The Golfing Machine begins and ends with Balance.

Per the 45-item Mechanical Checklist of All Strokes (12-3-0):

12-3-#1 Stance and Balance;

12-3-#45 Body Position and Balance.

And per 1-L:

"Off-balance force is notoriously erratic."


Balance is the 'glue' of physics - efficient force.

Most certainly the vast majority of folks do not pay attention to balance as much as they should.

Monitoring balance - simply holding your finish until the ball lands - is a goal worth focusing on.

Eyes closed, 'swing' a heavy club back and through, back and through.

Those 'effortless' swings are the times you are really balanced, not the times you simply 'think' you are balanced.
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