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Old 06-08-2007, 02:25 AM
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You are going to need at least another 90 minutes Drew!
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:30 AM
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Always assume that I "crib" all my material! Originality is nothing but judicious imitation Voltaire once said! I do not recall where I got most of the outline from, it may have been a Chuck Evans bit. Still I always start with the mission at hand (pun intended.) Introducing the younglings to the golf ball (and the principle of sustaining the line of compression) and the implement that is well designed for its task (despite what Winston Churchill thought!) I compare the club to a high performance vehicle. The shaft is the motor, the head the chasis, the face the steering wheel. I know that you are addressing open-minded professionals but remediation is a must at all levels of learning ! I then proceed to unvail the secret of lag pressure, the FLW & BRW, as well as the importance of the plane. You will probably have to camp out at Planesville for a while. Although my study of TGM is still in the novice stage I have come across very few people (pros included) that understand what the true plane for every golfstroke (or club if you will) is. If a group of 15 year olds can understand the basic concepts surely your peers will have little difficulty. The last sentence becomes funnier the more I read it!

A piggyback question unrelated to the thread! I stumbled across talk of a Yoda DVD while ferreting through the archives like a crazed vagrant in search metholated spirits. TGM addiction is a serious affair (pun in poor taste intended) Anyway I did not find the final chapter on that particular thread. So, is there such a thing? That is a DVD with Yoda & Co. doing their thang? What a coup if there is. There is NO substitute for the book, but great communicators like Yoda are indispensible for the rest of us hard of understanding types.

Technical question. Why does Ben Doyle feel that ball postioning is a stationary thing i.e. that ball is played from the same spot relative to low point. Is this to achieve a special purpose or did he respectively disagree? I got my hands on one of Mr. Doyles How To Build a G.O.L.F Swing tapes. It is amazing to watch him go through all 24 components as thoroughly as he does. A great learning activity for me is watching the tape with the book as a quick reference. Still, kinda curious about the ball position thing.

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As you narrow your stance by moving your back foot toward your front foot ,you move your left shoulder (low point) more in front of the ball.
Sorry drew i don't want to hijack
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:10 AM
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SEC, you obviously have been studying TGM for awhile. Have you ever worked with Mike Perpich GSEM at River Pines Golf?
No, only lessons from and questions to Ted Fort for me. Strict hitter - no desire to deal with a release swivel or give up control to centrifugal force, so why not learn from the best? (This is NOT to say, or give even the slightest impression that Ted encourages one to hit, but his knowledge of hitting is second to none in the whole world - same as his knowledge of TGM and swinging, so you do have the option) Plus, I like to be a little different.
Fortunately, I have found my answers, TGM and Ted Fort, and have and will continue to go full blast.

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Old 06-09-2007, 07:50 AM
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You are going to need at least another 90 minutes Drew!
If not a lifetime.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:54 AM
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I think there is great potential in showing the application of G.O.L.F. (how most touring pros are great with the three imperatives and handicap golfers are not with video examples for instance) and also giving an overview (wetting the appetite for study).
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:37 PM
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Thank you for the response Neil. Attempting to reconcile what you said in the the mirror alerted me to a tendency that I did not realize that I have/had - not varying the width of my stance much for different clubs, my stance for a wedge was in fact too wide. so thank you for the ball postion info as well as the unintended benefit!

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Old 09-26-2007, 10:09 AM
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Drew,

I will be in attendance and am looking forward to it. I am a Campbell grad and had the dubious honor of being David's 1st Teacher's Assistant (aka "Top Bitch"). I am looking forward to seeing his spectrum presentation as it has been a while since I first saw him present it. I was very pleased when I found out your background (2 AI's at a PGA Seminar!!!). Looking forward to seeing how your present your information. I always enjoy going back to the basics. Always find something new. Unfortunatly, you will not impact everyone there. People are stubborn. This is David's 4th year at Campbell and still can't get everyone to buy into him. It will come though...have to look at the big picture.

Whatever you decide to talk about, I am sure it will go well. Even if you do confuse them a bit, it is better than given them bad information. Some will catch on...those that want to. I think your presentation will go a long way in being a starting point for many. If David had not come to Campbell, I don't think I would have ever picked up the book. Hopefully after attending the seminar, others will begin to search into "The Machine".

I know that I will get a great deal out of it...hope others will as well.

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Old 09-26-2007, 10:53 AM
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Thanks Darren,


It will be a challenge to provide as much information as I can, given time constraints, but without confusing the heck out of some.

It may not be for everyone, but you never know.

We'll have to have a drink or two afterwards.
BTW, Rob Baxter, also an A.I., will be helping me out as my "Designated Driver" for both Swinging and Hitting.

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Old 09-26-2007, 02:57 PM
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See You Friday,
Drew

Drew,

Sorry, but I am unable to attend!!!

Nevertheless, I am sure that you will rock

and many will for more......

Keep us updated!
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:27 PM
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Drew,

Best of luck on Friday. You and BBax have my support and confidence. Wish I could be there. Your knowledge and passion, for the topic, will win the day. Let us all know how your presentation goes.

Hope to see somewhere down the fairway.

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