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Old 05-20-2007, 01:56 PM
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Deceleration and fat shots
My question is why does deceleration in a chip shot result in hitting behind the ball, even when the flying wedges are maintained.

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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 05-20-2007, 07:36 PM
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Lost Lag. Failed to reach aiming point. Club head was pre-maturely DOWN and the Low Point of the circle moved behind the ball.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:49 PM
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Lost Lag. Failed to reach aiming point. Club head was pre-maturely DOWN and the Low Point of the circle moved behind the ball.

So it could be said that overacceleration and deceleration (especially short game) are both demons!
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:34 PM
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So it could be said that overacceleration and deceleration (especially short game) are both demons!

I would say overacceleration is a definite yes . . . however intentional throwaway can be a deadly weapon . . . tune in on television and see it every week on the PGA Tour.
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Bucket , when you meant throwaway, bent left wrist or early casting?
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Bucket , when you meant throwaway, bent left wrist or early casting?

Both . . . I have seen David Orr use managed throwaway and casting (hand throw) to hit a 2 iron flop shot that would climb straight up over your granny's boo-font and drop softer than a pimp strutin' barefoot on hot black tar.
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So it could be said that overacceleration and deceleration (especially short game) are both demons!
Deceleration is QUITTING- 3-F-7-B, one of the four snares. Slowing or stopping the hands changes the Down and Out clubhead path. Losing Lag not only adds to quitting- in your case from deceleration- but also corrupts rhythm. Bottom line- your machine needs tuning.

Over acceleration is another rhythm corruptor. When your hands “out pace” the same basic RPMs of the turn- components poorly spaced and released inaccurately.

The Pros throw-away because they are gifted ball strikers with exceptional eye hand coordination and can get away with driver throw-away. But many don't know anything about swivel or roll, either.

An open-faced club can be 'slid' under a ball and clubhead throw-away may be the only way it can be done when held very open with a hard outside to in cut.
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Deceleration is QUITTING- 3-F-7-B, one of the four snares. Slowing or stopping the hands changes the Down and Out clubhead path. Losing Lag not only adds to quitting- in your case from deceleration- but also corrupts rhythm. Bottom line- your machine needs tuning.
I lay the sod over it on around 1 pitch shot a year and wanted to make it 0 for this year. I think it is because of quitting though. Thanks for the great posts Mike.
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:37 PM
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I lay the sod over it on around 1 pitch shot a year and wanted to make it 0 for this year. I think it is because of quitting though. Thanks for the great posts Mike.

I meant "your" in the third person, btw.

My full stroke improve ten fold over the winter because I improved my chipping. How? Basic and Aquired Motion. I hit plastic balls, crab grass, pine cones, bottle caps- just about anything on the ground- all the while downloading the book into my hands.

Some say Basic and Aquired are boring (not while downloading into the hands it ain't) but the weeks doing that over-shadow all the years of banging the driver at a driving range. You really discover your Flying Wedges.
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