Pace, Pressure, Rhythm, Flails, Delivery Paths, Acceleration and Pulley Sizes

[12 piece bucket]

Do y'all se a connection to all these items? I think there is a HUGE connection here that Homer understood. In particular the difference between pace and Rhythm as in Golfing Machine rhythm. They are DIFFERENT . . . but at the same time there is a connection in my mind.

What do y'all think? Let's talk.

[Bagger Lance]

Agree there are big interelationships and dependencies.

Would help to define "pace".

Do you mean handspeed or something else? (Trick question)

Milk and cookies keep you up late last night? A big brain-wave this morning?

[12 piece bucket]

Agree there are big interelationships and dependencies.

Would help to define "pace".

Do you mean handspeed or something else? (Trick question)

Milk and cookies keep you up late last night? A big brain-wave this morning?

Good question . . . How about this? Is pace "tempo" or handspeed? Or is that the same?

Actually I was munchin on some smoked poke sausage . . . now y'all can start with the jokes . . .

[Bagger Lance]

Good question . . . How about this? Is pace "tempo" or handspeed? Or is that the same?

Homer didn't have much to say about it. He first mentions the word PACE in 2-G (7th edition) while discussing rhythm and hinge action. He refers the reader to "See 2-P-0 regarding PACE."

In 2-P. THE WRISTCOCK.
"The Wristcock shortens the Swing Radius to facilitate and synchronize the Rhythm and Acceleration of the Pivot and Power Package."

"The true Angular Speed (RPM) of the Clubhead is identical to that of the Hands due to the mandatory Flat Left Wrist."

Here's the real deal...

"Uncocking the Left Wrist is Lever Assembly Extension only. Its appearance of "Overtaking" is incidental because it is actually seeking (Overtaking) its maximum RPM, which it already has by reason of the Flat Left Wrist. Therefore, it does not - and must not - affect the Lever Assembly RPM, (the Endless Belt Effect). The #3 Power Accumulator is the true Clubhead overtaking Action by reason of either "Maintaining" or "Returning to" its In-Line relelationship and its "Vertical-to-a-plane" Hinge Action Alignment. The Lever Assembly Extention RATE aids the #3 Accumulator Action and is regulated by Trigger Delay until FULL EXTENSION."

Homer mentions Pace three other times -

6-P-0 NON-AUTOMATIC RELEASE
Your "Motion" must include its "Pace" - that is, Handspeed (RPM), strong, consistent and RHYTHMIC. Then, manipulating the Trigger Delay will handle most Clubhead Speed Variations.

12-5-0 BASIC REQUIREMENTS
Your "Basic Motion" is a selected motion carefully maintaining the same characteristics of Angle, Pace, Rhythm, and Posture to serve as your Constant" on which Stroke Components can be hung without altering those charactersistics for any unintentional cause.

12-5-1 BASIC MOTION
Pace is listed as as #19 and references 2-G.

So at a cursory glance it appears that PACE is handspeed (RPM) and the reason I said this was a trick question, the Glossary defines PACE as:

PACE Example – walking vs. running.
Mechanical – The miles per hour (MPH) of a moving body.
Golf – The surface speed of the orbiting Clubhead as differentiated from Rhythm.

And thats all he wrote...so with all of these little chicken nuggets in mind, go back to 2-G to reconcile rhythm and pace. I've got to get back to work, but I'll be baaa-uck.

P.S. I believe the answer to the pace question is embedded in this post and I don't think it's hand speed, but... wouldn't be the first or last time I was wrong.

[Bagger Lance]

To net it out because...I'm just a bottom line guy. (here's where you can insert jokes)

I believe Homer is referring to "Pace" as the #3 Accumulator Clubhead Overtaking Rate measured in surface speed. The RPM is set up by hand speed and as the clubhead is catching up to the inline hand position by uncocking, the clubhead momentum is transferred to #3 roll power where true surface speed is measured (Pace).

Rhythm is the Rate (RPM) and Degree of Clubface Closing based on the selected hinge action.

Hand Speed is set up with the downstroke shoulder turn and remains at a constant MPH and RPM after initial acceleration. The endless belt.

Pulley size has a big impact on "#3 overtaking rate" and "rate of clubface closing" but not as much of an impact on pace (clubhead surface speed at impact)

Out of Jolt Cola...time for Bagger to stop now.

[12 piece bucket]

Homer didn't have much to say about it. He first mentions the word PACE in 2-G (7th edition) while discussing rhythm and hinge action. He refers the reader to [b]"See 2-P-0 regarding PACE."


"The true Angular Speed (RPM) of the Clubhead is identical to that of the Hands due to the mandatory Flat Left Wrist."

the Glossary defines PACE as:

PACE Example – walking vs. running.
Mechanical – The miles per hour (MPH) of a moving body.
Golf – The surface speed of the orbiting Clubhead as differentiated from Rhythm.


P.S. I believe the answer to the pace question is embedded in this post and I don't think it's hand speed, but... wouldn't be the first or last time I was wrong.

I believe the answer lies in your quotes above . . . the connection between the chosen Delivery Path and Pulley size, the REQUIRED Pace and resulting surface speed . . . surface speed is what? Pace is pop golf rhythm . . . but it ain't TGM Rhythm . . . but I believe Pace can aid or disrupt Rhythm. The answer is in the Belt.

[12 piece bucket]

Yup- Dad always said that to us when we were kids.

I figured somebody'd get all over that one! I would make a wife joke but I shall refrain.

[neil]

Do y'all se a connection to all these items? I think there is a HUGE connection here that Homer understood. In particular the difference between pace and Rhythm as in Golfing Machine rhythm. They are DIFFERENT . . . but at the same time there is a connection in my mind.

What do y'all think? Let's talk.

To me the pace is directly related to the amount of pressure you want to apply,but this is limited to your maximum handspeed.
Rhythm controls/is the #3 accumulator hand motion,so the two are very definately connected.
And the flail components ,pivot ,power package all have to be synchronised so as not to disrupt the delivery line.
Quick reply off the top of my head ,no reference to book so i have probably got this lot mixed up .But it is a test ,right Bucket?

[12 piece bucket]

To me the pace is directly related to the amount of pressure you want to apply,but this is limited to your maximum handspeed.
Rhythm controls/is the #3 accumulator hand motion,so the two are very definately connected.
And the flail components ,pivot ,power package all have to be synchronised so as not to disrupt the delivery line.
Quick reply off the top of my head ,no reference to book so i have probably got this lot mixed up .But it is a test ,right Bucket?

Pretty good stuff . . .

How does this relate . . . car speeding down the road at 70 MPH . . . sharp curve . . . now what??? How do that relate?

[neil]

Pretty good stuff . . .

How does this relate . . . car speeding down the road at 70 MPH . . . sharp curve . . . now what??? How do that relate?

IMO It relates in that hand speed and acc #3 rhythm must be coordinated SO THAT THE CAR CAN GO STRAIGHT ON!- at the fastest possible speed.
The car is not on the end of your arm.This is not a good analogy as the cars grip relies on friction -and the golf swing does not.(at least at the flail end!)