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Old 05-05-2007, 10:36 AM
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Downswing Action the Magical WAY
GI: If the hands aren't doing anything, then what's swinging the club?


Tomasello: Here we get into the terminology that scares people. You swing the club via two "divergent force Vectors". This simply means that two different forces are being combined. One force is moving the club upward and downward (see section 7-3, second paragraph). A second force is moving the club outward, away from you. The Upward and downward force is provided by a straight-up folding and unfolding of the right forearm (last paragraph of 7-3) from its address position. You simply fold your right arm at the elbow to swing the club up. From there, you try to throw the clubhead into the ground by unfolding your right arm. The outward or horizontal force comes from the pivoting of the hips to the rear on the backswing and the left rear on the downswing. This horizontal force throws the clubhead out away from you, on a horizontal plane. On the downswing, when you combine these two "divergent force vectors," the result is the movement of the club on the correct plane.

GI: This "throwing the club down" with the right forearm---doesn't that go against everything we've been taught about the downswing?

Tomasello: Yes. The delayed hit is merely keeping the right wrist bent through impact. All that stuff about leading the downswing with a lateral move of the lower body, driving the hips and legs towards the target to retain power---it's all terribly wrong! It seems to be what's happening, but it's not really what happens in the most efficient, centrifugal-force golf swing. The reality that most people can't comprehend is that in the centrifugal-force swing there is no forward motion by any part of the body. There are just the two "force vectors" I've described.

GI: Are you saying that the golfer has to do less with his body? Aren't there any physical requirements?

Tomasello: The only agility needed by the player is to be able to turn the hips---to pivot around a fixed point--and to lever and unlever the right forearm. The faster you can make these two movements, the greater the centifugal force you'll build up and the farther you'll hit the ball.

I believe what Tomasello is getting at in this interview is.....the Magic of the Right Forearm motion described in section 7-3 which is mentioned in this interview is the most efficient way to swing a golf club. Hitting or Swinging. So there is a TGM way to swing a golf club (12-1-0 and 12-2-0 per 7-3). But, the book does say in the PREFACE page xi, "This textbook can support individual "MY Way" procedures but no "THE Way" theory." Why can it support individual "MY WAY" procedures".....component variation concept.

DG

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Old 05-06-2007, 08:56 PM
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I believe what Tomasello is getting at in the above interview is.....the Magic of the Right Forearm motion described in section 7-3 which is mentioned in this interview is the most efficient way to swing a golf club. Hitting or Swinging. So there is a TGM way to swing a golf club (12-1-0 and 12-2-0 per 7-3). But, the book does say in the PREFACE page xi, "This textbook can support individual "MY Way" procedures but no "THE Way" theory." Why can it support individual "MY WAY" procedures".....component variation concept. As 12-1-0 and 12-2-0 say, "Avoid "customizing" it with other Variations until it approaches the "expert" stage. Then Follow 3-B."

DG

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Old 05-07-2007, 09:32 AM
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This is very interesting ,and i believe this throws up the biggest issue in golf instruction(IMO) -feel.
At the recent Falcons Fire school i was overdoing both motions .I have to feel "all arms"-no pivot .
It doesn't mean i don't pivot .
The pivot just works.It is effortless power.

Great post Delaware
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:47 PM
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Tomasello:......However, the book really got under my skin (Homer's TGM). I knew there was some very insightful information in it, but I couldn't grasp it. Finally my wife suggested that I try to reach Homer Kelley before I went crazy. So I went to see Kelley. He spent eight 12-hour days teaching me the principles of The Golfing Machine. I have all of those sessions on tape. He was tireless, and an absolute genius.

GI: And you were able to assimilate all of this?

Tomasello: Learning the principles took time. I knew that Homer's information was what I was looking for, but truthfully, after those sessions it was still over my head. Eventually, though, I learned both the movements and how to communicate them.

And who did he learn the movements from....in my three day school Tommy made references to Homer while teaching me the Magic of the Right Forearm.

DG

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Old 05-08-2007, 06:21 PM
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Tomasello:...... So I went to see Kelley. He spent eight 12-hour days teaching me the principles of The Golfing Machine. I have all of those sessions on tape. He was tireless, and an absolute genius.

DG
Wow! Those tapes have to be akin to the Holy Grail for us followers of the faith.
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:37 PM
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YES THEY ARE, delaware is kind enough to teach and share some of it with me and you all, despite a few 'fights' along the way, he keeps it going...thanks DG
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