Closed,Shut,Hooded Clubface

[Bagger Lance]

Whats a key board? I input all this data to my main frame via my card punch machine. Takes like forever, eh. Oh gotta go, the tapes are all outa whack again.

Hickory shafts too eh?

[dlam]

Thank you all for the most detailed explanations. The answers were more elaborate than I could imagine but I applaud you for getting the truth out for me, especially Daryl's diagrams and references.

Lovin how much effort you all put into the thought process of the golf swing.
Cheers

[O.B.Left]

Thank you all for the most detailed explanations. The answers were more elaborate than I could imagine but I applaud you for getting the truth out for me, especially Daryl's diagrams and references.

Lovin how much effort you all put into the thought process of the golf swing.
Cheers

Oh you're not getting rid of us that easily there dlam. Easy fella....

Lets define a few more things here for a while...................I'd like to draw your attention to 1-L-16 "The Plane Line controls the Clubhead Line-Of -Flight. Clubface alignment controls the Ball Line-Of-Flight. And 1-L-17 "The Clubface needs to be square to the Line-Off-Flight only at Point of Separation."

Meaning the ball leaves at right angles to the face at separation and curves according to any divergence in the face angle and clubhead path........the complete opposite of what we've been told for like ever. So the face is not closed at Impact.

But it is in the process of closing! How much? See Horizontal Hinging which is assumed in Daryls 2-C-1 LINEAR FORCE -THE IDEAL APPLICATION diagram. Why? Cause its the Hinge Action that will keep the point of contact between ball and face intact (as if welded together) throughout the impact interval. So no side slipage. (Although Hitters using Angled Hinging can close the face to offset the slip but thats another discussion that needs a whole new set of definitions).

And see 1-L-13 "The Clubhead travels Down -and-Out until it reaches its "Low Point".

Which means for balls played back of Low Point, the left shoulder, most every shot, the clubhead, that point of contact between face and ball that is welded together, needs to travel Down and Out during the Impact Interval (See the direction of the Angle of Approach line in Daryls diagram , its "out to right field" , so to speak. To a degree consistent with ball placement and plane angle.......the geometry of impact is not a taking the back of the ball towards the hole as most golfers try to do)

If Separation occurs prior to Low Point (as it does most often) the face will be square to the target line at Separation and therefor closed when it reaches Low Point. So dont establish your clubface alignment in your left hand grip at low point or at Adjusted Address , do it at Fix given the ball placement you are employing. ............This may be the closed face you are noticing perhaps?

Ah I could go on but I got a game to play..............

[innercityteacher]

I want to speak up for OB. He really cares about TGM stuff! He has been very nice to me in my quest for TGM wisdom. He is going to buy me a package of Canadian Titleists, someday, I hope.

Besides, Mike, if you piss OB off, they might invade Maine! Who would know that you were locked in a log cabin, somewhere?



Patrick

OB,
You're going to get some hooding with the irons due to shaft flex action as a result of impact. Whether that happens during or after impact - whether it's a result of the club contacting the ball or the club contacting the ground -just realize that "hooding" is something that happens in the golf swing. It would fall under Daryl's definition of "That would require the Grip moving faster than the Clubhead" due to the flexibility of the shaft and the deceleration of the clubhead due to impact. You can see that if you look at the hosel above in Daryl's post- leaning more forward in the last frame versus the first frame. Of course, that means that in Daryl's post above - since the face is also closing - that the four frames would also fit under his definition of "Shutting".

By the way - you are insane - people realize it - no one thinks that Daryl or I are insane - merely rational normal people. Please don't group everyone together with you. I know you Canadian's like groups but some of us are still into rugged USA individualism! Soon we won't need to deal with you - Bagger is close to perfecting the "Canadian Blocker" on the website- then it will be clear sailing! Is the snow off the ground yet

[O.B.Left]

Thanks City

How do you get to this Maine place anyways?

[Daryl]

Thanks City

How do you get to this Maine place anyways?

It's directly between Ottawa and Halifax.

I'll make you a deal. I'm sure I can get enough signatures for this.

I'll trade you ALL of our Blue States and California for your Green Provinces. This deal includes the people.

[O.B.Left]

Deal.

Im moving to California guys, The Great White North's on the move.

Wait a minute does this mean the Chi Hawks are a Canadian team now? Go Hawks Go! And Kobe and Pam Anderson and........Hey! She is from B.C. which is now part of the U.S. Let me think on this for a bit........ Ill get back to you.

[12 piece bucket]

Deal.

Im moving to California guys, The Great White North's on the move.

Wait a minute does this mean the Chi Hawks are a Canadian team now? Go Hawks Go! And Kobe and Pam Anderson and........Hey! She is from B.C. which is now part of the U.S. Let me think on this for a bit........ Ill get back to you.

Yeah but she's kinda like a Toyota . . . she was made in Canader . . . but got parts from all over . . . the sum of the parts greater than the hole . . I mean whole.

[JerryG]

Daryl, I appreciate nearly everything you write except this last bit. Don't get rid of the tax asset states and just leave us with the tax liability states.

[golfguru]

Don't worry too much JerryG. It's a global market place so all the companies would rush to the better economic place to be. Oh hang on, governments have now interfered with the free flow of capitalism and immigration so maybe that won't work fast enough anymore. - Please read with a large dose of tongue in cheek