Never move the hands with the hands???

[jim_0068]

Charles Howell does it too....brian mentioned it is a plane shift from i believe the turned shoulder plane at the top to the elbow plane, this shift is the cause for such the big drop

[Yoda]

Straight down, shifting to a shallower plane.

This is the Angled Line Delivery Path of 10-23-B. That is, "the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Elbow [Plane] Angle" before they begin their Straight Line drive "directly at and through the Aiming Point."

[12 piece bucket]

Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

Straight down, shifting to a shallower plane.

This is the Angled Line Delivery Path of 10-23-B. That is, "the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Elbow [Plane] Angle" before they begin their Straight Line drive "directly at and through the Aiming Point."

Did Mr. K ever miss anything? His ability to point out variations is/was amazing.

[MizunoJoe]

Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

Straight down, shifting to a shallower plane.

This is the Angled Line Delivery Path of 10-23-B. That is, "the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Elbow [Plane] Angle" before they begin their Straight Line drive "directly at and through the Aiming Point."

Right there in plain English, and I've somehow managed to not see it! Thanks.

But the statement, "before they begin their Straight Line DRIVE" reminds me of our conversation in which you said that in a Swing, the hands don't drive toward the Aiming Point, but rather you are only aware of their direction toward the Aiming Point. This makes it sound as though 10-23-B is only for Hitting, but of course that isn't true. So what gives?

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Originally Posted by MizunoJoe Straight down, shifting to a shallower plane. This is the Angled Line Delivery Path of 10-23-B. That is, "the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Elbow [Plane] Angle" before they begin their Straight Line drive "directly at and through the Aiming Point."

Right there in plain English, and I've somehow managed to not see it! Thanks.

But the statement, "before they begin their Straight Line DRIVE" reminds me of our conversation in which you said that in a Swing, the hands don't drive toward the Aiming Point, but rather you are only aware of their direction toward the Aiming Point. This makes it sound as though 10-23-B is only for Hitting, but of course that isn't true. So what gives?

The Hands are always driven toward the Ball or alternative Aiming Point (6-G-0). That drive is supplied either by Centrifugal Force (Swinging) or by Muscular Thrust (Hitting).

[6bmike]

When using a Hit Stroke, Angled Line Delivery Path of 10-23-B was the missing part in my machine. I found it in 10-14-B while taking out the slack without realizing it. The previous posts jarred my subconscious. What a flash of light as I read those words:

"the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Elbow [Plane] Angle" before they begin their Straight Line drive "directly at and through the Aiming Point."

And MJ’s: “Right there in plain English, and I've somehow managed to not see it! Thanks.”

Glad my body knew what to do while waiting on the noggin to wake up.

Thanks guys.

[Anonymous]

Mike,

Are you using standard hip action with an angled delivery path?

DG

[6bmike]

Mike,

Are you using standard hip action with an angled delivery path?

DG

Help me out. I’m using 10-14-B, a hip slide to take out the slack. This lowers my hands on plane before driving them down to the ball. I may be using 10-23-B or A but looking in the book- maybe C or D since I still bring my hands up a bit higher than they should.

What has been key for me this week and working on your swing has traits of Alzheimer's- you discover new things over and over again- has been the hip slide which lowers my hands before driving hard down into the ball.