TGM Croker Golf Analysis

[Burner]

Dear Bagger,

Thanks for the notice here and I appreciate being a part of LBG Forum and able to contribute to the understandings of Homer's TGM.
I appreciate Lynn posting the Tom Tomasello videos that I produced in Australia with Tom in 1989. They were very special times for me. Tom was a great human being and super golf instructor.
In respect for Lynn and his connection to both Tom Tomasello and Homer Kelley, I would like to offer free to all LGB Forum members the video download of Paul Hart's assessment of Croker Golf System 24 components.
The link is:
http://www.crokergolfsystem.com/TGMD...G_ANALYSIS.htm
Kindest Regards,
Peter
PS: I agree with Lynn in that we are all here to help advance TGM with our best description of TGM and its application to all golfers playing this game for fun and results.
Also I appreciate Lee Deitrick's willingness to share his knowledge with us all. He is a professional's professional when it comes to golf instruction.

G'Damnit! Thats another $3 putt I made a couple a days too early.

[coophitter]

So, what we get out of the Paul Hart analysis is Tom Tomasello taught a 2,3,4 accumulator swing which substituted “transfer of momentum” at the start of downswing for the use of "The MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM" and extensor action....I believe Tomasello's arguement for this approach would be an issue of generating FULL POWER. See 10-3-K and 10-3-D in the 7th edition...and study chapter 5 (Power) of the Tomasello/Croker Australian video series...

I think we're finally pulling this thing together...

DG

I believe that Mr. Delaware implies that Tomasello taught a 1,2,3,4 all barrels right arm swing, and I believe ergo that Delaware is actually pulling this Tomasello thing together. I'm not sure if Mr. Hart agreed with Mr. Croker's "feel" of a right arm down and out karate chop, but Tomasello definitely taught me that it wasn't a "feel". He said to go ahead and karate chop the forearm right away without delay before the ball had a chance to move on you. Cock and fire the right arm and let 2,3and 4 fly; if horizontal hinging was the result then hooray and let the ball fly a bit right of target and fall toward the target upon it's descent. If horizontal hinging didn't happen then let it or learn it! No extensor action; the length of the left arm merely prevents the right elbow from totally uncocking until it can, and the pre-stretched tricep muscle fibers don't have to (and definitely should not) contract any faster than they were pre-stretched to instigate the magical right forearm throw. "Hit" the the ball with a right arm "swing". 1,2,3,4 is what Tomasello taught me so go Delaware go! Call it switting if you want to but never let it quit.

Sincerely, Coophitter

[Yoda]

...Tomasello definitely taught me that it wasn't a "feel". He said to go ahead and karate chop the forearm right away without delay before the ball had a chance to move on you. Cock and fire the right arm and let 2,3and 4 fly...

Only those familiar with the evolution of The Golfing Machine know that it was originally presented as...

"...a Right Arm approach to the game."

-- Homer Kelley

Nowhere is this more evident than the instruction (through the fifth edition) for Maximum Trigger Delay of the #3 Accumulator:

"MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY is achieved by holding the Right Hand 'palm up' until the last instant and using either a Snap or Flip Release. A left Hand version is an On Plane Flat Wrist 'Karate Chop' at the Aiming Point with the edge of the Left Hand."

Does that mean that #1 Accumulator Muscle Power (versus #4 Accumulator Centrifugal Power) is actively driving the Left Arm and Club through Impact?

No.

Does it mean that the Swinger does not feel an 'active' Right Arm? Both its Extensor Action and the Acceleration Control of the #3 Pressure Point?

No.

I agree with Paul Hart's analysis of the Croker Golf Swing.

[Daryl]

Only those familiar with the evolution of The Golfing Machine know that it was originally presented as...

"...a Right Arm approach to the game."

-- Homer Kelley

I didn’t know that.

Nowhere is this more evident than the instruction (through the fifth edition) for Maximum Trigger Delay of the #3 Accumulator:

"MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY is achieved by holding the Right Hand 'palm up' until the last instant and using either a Snap or Flip Release. A left Hand version is an On Plane Flat Wrist 'Karate Chop' at the Aiming Point with the edge of the Left Hand."

I’ve done that once or twice. Nice feeling.

Does that mean that #1 Accumulator Muscle Power (versus #4 Accumulator Centrifugal Power) is actively driving the Left Arm and Club through Impact?

No.

Does it mean that the Swinger does not feel an 'active' Right Arm? Both its Extensor Action and the Acceleration Control of the #3 Pressure Point?

No.
I agree with Paul Hart's analysis of the Croker Golf Swing.

Regardless of your analysis of Paul Harts analysis; as a soon to be switter free swinger; is it alright for me to have an active right arm? Maybe that's part of my misunderstanding. My right arm, except for PP#3 has mostly been inert.

[Delaware Golf]

Only those familiar with the evolution of The Golfing Machine know that it was originally presented as...

"...a Right Arm approach to the game."

-- Homer Kelley

Nowhere is this more evident than the instruction (through the fifth edition) for Maximum Trigger Delay of the #3 Accumulator:

"MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY is achieved by holding the Right Hand 'palm up' until the last instant and using either a Snap or Flip Release. A left Hand version is an On Plane Flat Wrist 'Karate Chop' at the Aiming Point with the edge of the Left Hand."

Does that mean that #1 Accumulator Muscle Power (versus #4 Accumulator Centrifugal Power) is actively driving the Left Arm and Club through Impact?

No.

Does it mean that the Swinger does not feel an 'active' Right Arm? Both its Extensor Action and the Acceleration Control of the #3 Pressure Point?

No.

I agree with Paul Hart's analysis of the Croker Golf Swing.

Yoda,

It looks like Tommy taught TGM as Homer initially approached the Machine with (a right arm approach)...I wish I could see the first edition...during my three day school with Tommy, the first edition sat on his desk...it would be great to have all of the editions available for study, I know I would be first in line to get a set...there are so many great tidbits of information in the three I have...the 5th, 6th and now the 7th.

DG

[Delaware Golf]

I believe that Mr. Delaware implies that Tomasello taught a 1,2,3,4 all barrels right arm swing, and I believe ergo that Delaware is actually pulling this Tomasello thing together. I'm not sure if Mr. Hart agreed with Mr. Croker's "feel" of a right arm down and out karate chop, but Tomasello definitely taught me that it wasn't a "feel". He said to go ahead and karate chop the forearm right away without delay before the ball had a chance to move on you. Cock and fire the right arm and let 2,3and 4 fly; if horizontal hinging was the result then hooray and let the ball fly a bit right of target and fall toward the target upon it's descent. If horizontal hinging didn't happen then let it or learn it! No extensor action; the length of the left arm merely prevents the right elbow from totally uncocking until it can, and the pre-stretched tricep muscle fibers don't have to (and definitely should not) contract any faster than they were pre-stretched to instigate the magical right forearm throw. "Hit" the the ball with a right arm "swing". 1,2,3,4 is what Tomasello taught me so go Delaware go! Call it switting if you want to but never let it quit.

Sincerely, Coophitter

Coop,

Thanks for your comments...yes, I agree, it's just not a feel as you say above...for full power, Tommy said to use a definite right forearm karate chop from the top. If you watch Tommy's 1988 video from his Myrtle Beach studio...in one brief moment he talks about uncocking the right arm from the top (just like the Letter series videos from Lee)...this is approximately one year before the trip to Australia...some believe this golf swing was influenced by Peter..after viewing the 1988 video, I don't believe this to be true...Tommy had the swing happening before the trip to Australia.

DG

[lekommend]

Dear Bagger,

Thanks for the notice here and I appreciate being a part of LBG Forum and able to contribute to the understandings of Homer's TGM.
I appreciate Lynn posting the Tom Tomasello videos that I produced in Australia with Tom in 1989. They were very special times for me. Tom was a great human being and super golf instructor.
In respect for Lynn and his connection to both Tom Tomasello and Homer Kelley, I would like to offer free to all LGB Forum members the video download of Paul Hart's assessment of Croker Golf System 24 components.
The link is:
http://www.crokergolfsystem.com/TGMD...G_ANALYSIS.htm
Kindest Regards,
Peter
PS: I agree with Lynn in that we are all here to help advance TGM with our best description of TGM and its application to all golfers playing this game for fun and results.
Also I appreciate Lee Deitrick's willingness to share his knowledge with us all. He is a professional's professional when it comes to golf instruction.

Thank you Peter.

[Bagger Lance]

Peter,

Thank you for sharing these videos with our members. You did a great job of describing your swing, and Paul did a superb analysis of translating it into the language of TGM.

You and Paul make a great team and we are honored to have you here.

Hats off to both!

Bagger

[KappaRaider]

Video part 4 from 1:30 to 1:40. Those 10 seconds cleared up a few years of fog. Thanks!