The Finish Swivel
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05-11-2006, 07:58 PM
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Do you consciously finish swivel or does it just happen?
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05-11-2006, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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And, just before he retired...
The only man at Boeing whose signature could release a B-47 as fully-inspected and technically ready for sale.
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The prosecution rests its case.
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05-11-2006, 10:31 PM
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Swivel Consciousness
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Originally Posted by KappaRaider
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Do you consciously finish swivel or does it just happen?
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Unless you are among the Gifted Few, KappaRaider, the answer is...
Swivel first consciously according to the Instruction given in The Golfing Machine and in these pages.
Then, let the motion happen subconsciously.
Watch (in The Gallery) the 6bmike video short "Ready To Roll On the Plane" and duplicate my rotational Wrist Motion with a dowel in the FIST of your Left Hand -- NOT a regular Golf Grip.
If you don't KNOW that you are Swiveling...
Assume that you are not.
Because you probably aren't.
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05-15-2006, 09:13 AM
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Yoda, what should you do if you are unable to finish swivel? In my case, I cannot rotate my left forearm so that my palm faces the sky. I get almost zero movememnt from the handshake position.
Assuming that I hinge correctly, how will having no finish swivel be effecting my ball flight and what might I do to make the best of my situation? I guess at the moment my left wrist just bends earlier than most and maybe so to the elbow.
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05-15-2006, 09:47 AM
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How To Swivel When You Can't...Or How To Compensate
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Originally Posted by nevermind
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Yoda, what should you do if you are unable to finish swivel? In my case, I cannot rotate my left forearm so that my palm faces the sky. I get almost zero movememnt from the handshake position.
Assuming that I hinge correctly, how will having no finish swivel be effecting my ball flight and what might I do to make the best of my situation? I guess at the moment my left wrist just bends earlier than most and maybe so to the elbow.
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Interesting situation, Nevermind. Let me think on it. Meanwhile, remember that you don't have to Swivel your Left Palm to the sky. It need only Swivel back to the Plane, and that is not nearly so far off the vertical.
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05-15-2006, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nevermind
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Yoda, what should you do if you are unable to finish swivel? In my case, I cannot rotate my left forearm so that my palm faces the sky. I get almost zero movememnt from the handshake position.
Assuming that I hinge correctly, how will having no finish swivel be effecting my ball flight and what might I do to make the best of my situation? I guess at the moment my left wrist just bends earlier than most and maybe so to the elbow.
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As a starting point, make sure you can fully pivot through the shot, turning your left foot more 'open' as need be. As long as your pivot/torso can move through, you can minimize the issue of not having a full swivel. This is an area where many falter due to lack of flexibility or improper lead foot position.
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05-15-2006, 10:15 PM
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Thanks Edz, that makes sense. Look forward to Yoda's follow up.
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05-19-2006, 12:08 PM
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In the most recent golf world magazine, AI Chuck Cook analyzes Hogan's swing and indicates his key to accuracy was the left arm moving left of the body quickly after impact. Is this a reference to the finish swivel as outlined in this thread or something else?
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05-19-2006, 12:46 PM
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tracing
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Originally Posted by rogerdodger
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In the most recent golf world magazine, AI Chuck Cook analyzes Hogan's swing and indicates his key to accuracy was the left arm moving left of the body quickly after impact. Is this a reference to the finish swivel as outlined in this thread or something else?
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I would have to say, "something else". I have not seen the article so take my advice with a grain of salt. From what you've explained, it sounds like tracing the Arc of Approach. Homer said it was an inferior procedure to the tracing of a straight baseline. I think when Homer was asked if one could trace the Arc of Approach, he said, "...sure, but why would you?".
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05-19-2006, 01:43 PM
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Chuck the cook
IMO, Cooks disertation is a little disappointing. Golf World probably edited out all the good stuff  . Here is his total quote regarding Hogan:
"Hogan's left arm went left so fast after impact that he was able to keep the clubface on the ball longer than anyone else. That's why he had more control than anyone. I watched him hit balls for two days and never miss a shot."
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