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View Poll Results: Should TGM paragraph references be included in posts?
I am actively engaged in the study of TGM and find the references extremely helpful. 59 60.82%
I am actively engaged in the study of TGM and find the references somewhat helpful. 27 27.84%
I own the book but am not actively studying it so I don't need the references. 5 5.15%
I do not own the book and thus find no value in the references. 2 2.06%
I view the paragraph references as clutter and an ego trip for those who post them. 4 4.12%
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:08 PM
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yes
One reference leads to another,
that leads to another,
that leads you to yet another
and so on and so forth and
next thing you know
you are fluent in Kelley.
And that goes straight to the hands.
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:30 PM
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The references are handy as a footnote tool, so to speak. I will reiterate the above that a response of a reference only is annoying, and more of an ego thing. Drives me nuts when someone makes a post consisting of nothing more than, "6-E-2."
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Old 10-26-2005, 04:48 PM
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Using of reference to supplement the text/response is good IMO.

Every post is an opportunity to learn.
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Old 10-26-2005, 05:00 PM
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References increases the value of the information on this site. It will make it easier to go between the book and the various discussions long after the discussions have ended.
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:02 PM
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I like references, but I like them when there is a corresponding explaination or 'real' world example to it.
I don't find it useful when all you get is a reference to a part in the book, sure it will explain what you are after but having an example or easier to understand explaination along with the reference is a better way of learning.
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Old 10-26-2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR
References increases the value of the information on this site. It will make it easier to go between the book and the various discussions long after the discussions have ended.
I couldn't say it better myself.

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Old 10-27-2005, 06:32 AM
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Paragraphs
I realize that the references to paragraphs in the book form a continuous never ending loop but the idea is go go only as deep as you need to answer your question. I find them very helpful and feel that they make the answers more complete.

The "one page wonders" we see in Golf Digest and Golf Magazine have no supporting data and most of the time, if they are correct(and most of the time they are not), only apply in very narrow cases and under very specific instances.

As far as those who do not have the book..... you need the book if you are going to get serious about this study. I believe the only way to do it is full immersion into the subject. This includes, self study ( book, forum and practice) and help from an AI ( and practice).
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:26 AM
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Indifference to Reference?
Mr. Kelley put reference in the book for a reason. It is up to the individual whether or not they decide to use them. Having references will keep everyone happy(3-A) .
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:20 AM
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References
I like the references, but they do clutter the sentence or paragraph when they are within the body of the note.

My preference would be an explanation or answer to a question and then at the bottom of the post it could say something like - "please refer to 6-B-3 for further study"
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:31 AM
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The references are very helpful... but for me, a novice, they aren't enough. I need a little further explanation BUT I need the references too.
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