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Old 09-22-2010, 09:47 AM
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En wedge er en kile. Det refererer til vinkelen mellom venstre eller høyre underarm og skaftet.

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Old 09-22-2010, 12:14 PM
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Jo, men hva brukes den til? Det blir omtrent det samme som en trekant, men det er ikke en fast størrelse, er det vel? Driver den ikke og forandrer fasong ettersom hvor armene befinner seg - f.eks. i nedsvingen hvor høyrearmen rettes (nesten helt) ut - hvilken nytte og verdi har en slik kile annet enn et bilde eller anskueliggjøring av et eller annet. Jeg er sannsynligvis utrolig treig som ikke begriper dette, men jeg jobber med saken med alle mine gode medhjelpere - hvorav du er en av dem. Takk for det.
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Old 09-22-2010, 01:13 PM
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Det er ikke så viktig at det kalles for kiler. Poenget er å eliminere en del håndleddsbevegelser som er ødeleggende for golfsvingen. Det går an å gjøre utrolig mye rart med håndleddene i baksvingen og nedsvingen. Og mange gjør det. Ting som bør unngås.

Hvis du låser alle bevegeligheter som ikke er i henhold til the flying wedges tar du vekk en hel masse muligheter til å gjøre feil.

Den eneste bevegelsen du skal ha i de to håndleddene er venstre hånd som du kan knekke og rette ut. Men håndleddet skal være flatt hele tiden. Akkumulator #2.

Du kan prøve å holde høyre hånd frossen fra en "impact" addresseposision og så ta hele baksvingen uten å bevege høyre håndledd. Det krever en helt spesiell koordinering og synkronisering mellom hender, armer og skuldre. Det kan føles som det er umulig de første gangene du prøver. I nedsvingen får du drahjelp av sentrifugalkraften så det er litt enklere der hvis du har lært deg å gjøre nedsvingen med skikkelig tyngdeoverføring, hofte og skulderrotasjon, og ikke bare hiver armer og golfkølle mot ballen...

Dette er ikke trivielt, men går rett på kjernen av TGM. Når du får til dette så er du på rett vei.

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Old 09-22-2010, 01:28 PM
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Ja, dette med hva håndleddene foretar seg, har jeg fått med meg. Det var derfor jeg lurte på om ikke denne del-forståelsen er "godt nok" til å gjennomføre dette "flyende kiler" opplegget i praksis, selv om selve begrepet ikke fører til noen forståelse i seg selv i mitt tilfelle....

I think I am able to get the required educated hands without having educated my brain to understand this "flying wedge" concept.
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:28 PM
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You are probably on to something here - keep it up for your own sake - for the time being I'm uncapable of getting this into my head.
Let's try a simpler image: picture a table with a single central leg. Your left arm and the shaft move on the table (that's the left arm flying wedge) and the left wrist cocks and uncocks so that the shaft stay there. I take zero effort to maintain the left arm flying wedge on the table. The right forearm is the leg.

Now in the golf swing the tabletop is not horizontal but inclined, and in fact there is no real tabletop but the right forearm can be used so that the left flying wedge moves as if there were a tabletop, staying on plane with no tension.

That's a simplified image of how I picture the role of the flying wedges, please correct me if that's wrong or misleading.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:07 PM
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Let's try a simpler image: picture a table with a single central leg. Your left arm and the shaft move on the table (that's the left arm flying wedge) and the left wrist cocks and uncocks so that the shaft stay there. I take zero effort to maintain the left arm flying wedge on the table. The right forearm is the leg.

Now in the golf swing the tabletop is not horizontal but inclined, and in fact there is no real tabletop but the right forearm can be used so that the left flying wedge moves as if there were a tabletop, staying on plane with no tension.

That's a simplified image of how I picture the role of the flying wedges, please correct me if that's wrong or misleading.
The last sentence about correcting you - that is meant for somebody else, I quess and not me who's completely daft in this matter. I didn't understand your last image either.

I guess TGM and its users want me to see the two arms & hands holding the golf club as some sort of unit ( or 2) and that the backswing and downswing is supposed to be done in such a manner that this unit operates on plane in an effective geometrical manner (or something like that).

I just don't see this geometrical wedge in my head in a meaningfull way, but I know how the wrists are supposed to work and how the impact "position" ( the moment of truth ) should be and I am willing to leave it like that without seeing geometrical figures in my head without understanding their purpose. If I had understood it, it would make me happy - now it only makes me unhappy.

I quess this has a lot to do with angles? But I watched a video on youtube where a guy said - forget the angles - more important is PRESSURE (thru the ball I quess).

Therefore hopefully my body parts are doing it correctly (right wrist bent, left wrist flat and level) and that must be the important thing, not what the remaining body part - my brain inside my head - is understanding about what is going on geometrically spoken. I'm not sure I even understand what I'm saying (does anybody else?) Maybe I am more "positional" in my head than "alignment-oriented"? (Or just empty) A curse?
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:07 AM
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Isn't this good enough
and takes care of any flying wedges issues:

The Left Wrist is always Flat and the Bent Right Wrist is always Level.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by airair View Post
and takes care of any flying wedges issues:

The Left Wrist is always Flat and the Bent Right Wrist is always Level.
Very close.

The Left Wrist is always Flat and the Right Wrist is always Bent and Level.

In the hardcore version, the bend in the right wrist is constant. In any case you should try to minimize the variation of Right Wrist Bend.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:36 AM
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and takes care of any flying wedges issues:

The Left Wrist is always Flat and the Bent Right Wrist is always Level.
Air, if you want a great visual of that principle, watch all the video you can find of Ted Fort... Nobody does it better!

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His latest? http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread7631.html Or any in particular?
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