Lazy Man's Guide: Swinging vs Hitting

[Mathew]

Yoda vs Yoda

[EdZ]

Drill #1 vs Drill #2

Right palm 'on plane' vs plane 'through' right palm

Physics vs Geometry

Rotation point vs Mirror Point

[drewitgolf]

I'd pull two off: Spin Vs Drive (although I am not sure exactly what this references-I'm assuming it relates to ball flight characteristics) and Draw vs Fade (sure you could say that hitting and angled hinging has a fade producing component that needs to be compensated for but swinging certainly has no draw component)- the draw/fade requirements are really completely separate issues from the hitting and swinging methods.

Spin (the body like a fly-wheel) vs. Drive (the right arm-elbow)

[tongzilla]

Drill #1 vs Drill #2

Physics vs Geometry

Rotation point vs Mirror Point

Please explain the above, especially the last one.

[12 piece bucket]

Originally Posted by EdZ

Drill #1 vs Drill #2 Physics vs Geometry Rotation point vs Mirror Point

Please explain the above, especially the last one.

Me too.

[Mike O]

Originally Posted by Mike O

I'd pull two off: Spin Vs Drive (although I am not sure exactly what this references-I'm assuming it relates to ball flight characteristics) and Draw vs Fade (sure you could say that hitting and angled hinging has a fade producing component that needs to be compensated for but swinging certainly has no draw component)- the draw/fade requirements are really completely separate issues from the hitting and swinging methods.

Spin (the body like a fly-wheel) vs. Drive (the right arm-elbow)

Thanks Drewitgolf- I'm for keeping it on the list now that I understand the basic concept.

[nevermind]

maybe I should start a thread asking for a hands up from anyone who uses 12-1-0. Seems like nobody does

[annikan skywalker]

Nevermind,

Everyone of my students in PGM(160) will have a Chapter 12 checklist completed by December...So far 54 checklists completed...aprrox.65% hitting components...35% swinging components...Chapter 12 is invaluable especially the Basic Motion Cirricullum in 12-5...I ALWAYS run a mental checklist of Chapter 12 in my mind for every lesson...That is what determines what suggestions I make to the student!

I'm using the component checklists to see how frequently each component is used...it is a project that is being done by my students in Instructor Development PGM270 at the University.


Data ....Collecting Data...Not Opinions!!!
Skywalker

[annikan skywalker]

I just don't know DG...

I'm not authorized...

My guess is that 10-24 -B...Non-Auto Random Sweep...Means that it is triggered manually...at the Side instead of during release usually with a Right Arm Throw which is 10-20-B -...

The right arm simply "pushes" the Lever Assemblies(6-A) toward impact with either "early OR late" release. Usually restricted to Hitting(10-19-A)...

When I swing I use extenser action as passive right arm participation..so sharper focus can be placed on the Active Left Wrist aka. "Standard Wrist Action" and Sequenced Release which is best triggered by a wrist throw...10-20-E Especially, compatible with swinging....So any right arm participation is passive ...but present!!!

I am NOT a golfing machine expert...And I make plenty of mistakes... So if you disagree with my post ..then you diagree with the book...the only person I can recommend you ask is Yoda...He knows the book better than anyone I know...and I've learned from some of the best....

Skywalker

PS I DO NOT disagree with you on right arm Swinging..it's in the Book...But it is ALWAYS associated with it's dear friend 10-3-K ...it always tends toward a Simultaneous release sequence.... which is usually not compatible with swinging....

In my own checklist I listed several throws as combinations....the correction should have been Hand Throw with right arm throw(Hitting) and wrist throw with shoulder throw(Swininging)... I'm not afraid to admit to making a mistake....So I'm sorry ...please forgive my ignorance!!!

If my post is wrong then I Simply DO NOT KNOW....

[annikan skywalker]

How about you DG..