If the Plane of the respective Wedges maintain a constant relationship to each other (90 degrees say) and to the club shaft (top and aft) and the shaft rotates around the LCOG wouldn't the wedges rotate also? In other words don't the wedges rotate with Hinge Action as well as swivel action?
I'd say the Hinge Action moves the wedges that make the shaft rotate around the LCOG.
Following the rules:
Flat left wrist that only cocks and uncocks, never bends or rolls. AND A bend right wrist that never cocks or rolls. From FIX to FOLLOW THROUGH. NOTE- all roll is assembly roll of the wedge assembly.
an uncompensated stroke REQUIRES:
swinging- horizontal hinge, requireing- a pitch right elbow and a slap onplane forearm
JUST like Tiger picture.
Likewise hitting will require punch right elbow and a fanning right forearm.
Failing these elements, compensations are required.
Note that he ap-pears to have "perfect" 90 degree wedges and #3 pp is on plane but "high aft" on the shaft- ie. still rotating to the aft side which it will not reach until impact. Horizontal hinging, sequenced release
Now, assume assume he had arrived at the position of shaft level to the ground and parallel to the pl. With a punch elbow. pp#3 would be behind the shaft, on plane and the face perpendicular to the plane for ANGLED hinging.
Now- switching a drag start down to a punch release fit well. Just get to the punch elbow.
I know - HK wants CHOICES of components. But, would it not help many to say that uncompensated stroke requires a limited selection process?
Returning to the Original question of this thread.
Recognizing the insight from O.B., Daryl and bucket from post reply #242 to present.
Looks like a good uncompensated swing.
Following the rules:
Flat left wrist that only cocks and uncocks, never bends or rolls. AND A bend right wrist that never cocks or rolls. From FIX to FOLLOW THROUGH. NOTE- all roll is assembly roll of the wedge assembly.
an uncompensated stroke REQUIRES:
swinging- horizontal hinge, requireing- a pitch right elbow and a slap onplane forearm
JUST like Tiger picture.
Likewise hitting will require punch right elbow and a fanning right forearm.
Failing these elements, compensations are required.
Note that he ap-pears to have "perfect" 90 degree wedges and #3 pp is on plane but "high aft" on the shaft- ie. still rotating to the aft side which it will not reach until impact. Horizontal hinging, sequenced release
Now, assume assume he had arrived at the position of shaft level to the ground and parallel to the pl. With a punch elbow. pp#3 would be behind the shaft, on plane and the face perpendicular to the plane for ANGLED hinging.
Now- switching a drag start down to a punch release fit well. Just get to the punch elbow.
I know - HK wants CHOICES of components. But, would it not help many to say that uncompensated stroke requires a limited selection process?
HB
Disagree....perverted pitch elbow...no accumulator relase....no #4 pressure point...shoulders well closed....toe squashing bugs...butt cap pointing right too long.
The #3 PP and the Center of Gravity of the Clubhead Travel the Swing Plane for both Hitters and Swingers. The Left Arm Wedge and Right Forearm Wedge are Aligned on the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend. They "Saddle" the Swing Plane. The Right Wrist Bend varies so then, likewise, the Wedges Alignment to the Swing Plane will vary.
I wish I could. If you knew about it, then you'd be playing on the "Hooters" Tour. That's why I'm doing the video. "Right Forearm Participation in the Golf Swing: per TGM"
The Right Forearm can Trace the Plane line when it's On-Plane. The Right Forearm can be On-Plane when the Right Elbow is On-Plane.
Oh? Actually, the Right Forearm doesn't rotate around the LCOG. It Rotates around the Hinge.
When you throw a Javelin, you don't rotate around the LCOG. When you skip a stone on the surface of water, you don't rotate the LCOG. If you do, then the stone dives into the water and the Javelin impels a spectator. Both Throwing a Javelin and Skipping a Stone use Right Forearm Wedge Geometry. And with both activities, the Right Forearm Wedge Rotates around the Right Elbow. By the way, if you did rotate around the LCOG, you would be Swiveling. The Golf Shaft Rotates around the LCOG but not the Wedges.
You could make the argument that the LCOG and Wedges rotate together around the Hinge, but then I would point out to you that the Rotation is another one of Golf's illusions.
I know how difficult this stuff is to understand. Not for you so much but for almost everyone else. The things I say must sound like gibberish or at least as incoherent as 12 Pc Bucket after a weekend binge hugging the "Still". I'm not crazy like Mike O.
I can assure everyone that concepts in TGM are easy to understand.
Daryl....could you make a device say like putting two rulers together with a hinge that could be gripped with the hinge at the right wrist joint...the lower ruler griped like a club...the upper ruler running up the right forearm and sticking on the players right rib cage and some how attach a club to this theoretical device?
Been there, done that. I designed and built 3 Alignment Learning Aids to teach players how to Hinge and use the Right Forearm Angle of Approach. Dual Horizontal, Angled and Dual Vertical. You need only two Dowels and a coupler to connect them (or use your Left Hand)
TO USE: Hold the "Paddle-Wheel" Stick Perpendicular to the Associated Plane with your Left Hand. With your Right Hand, Grip the Lever Stick at Impact Fix with your Right Forearm On-Plane and the #3 PP on the Aft Side of the Shaft. Move the "Lever" Stick back and forth with your Right Hand, Forearm and Elbow.
NOTE: Grip the Lever firmly with your Right Hand with a Bent and Level Wrist. Don't allow the right hand to rotate as you move back and forth. This is Hinge Action. If you loosen your Right Hand Grip and Allow the hand to Rotate while the Lever Stick moves, then you're Swiveling.
This teaches Hinge Action and the Right Forearm Angle of Approach for that Hinge Action(and much more). These devices will force you to Hinge through Impact and You CANNOT Swivel through Impact with these devices.
Nice D . Different point of view or machine so to speak from 1L but not inconsistent . Did you draw Vertical Hinging?
Sorry if this is getting away from the Right Forearm Angle of A....
It's the same as 1-L. The Paddle-Wheel Hinge Stick is HKs Main Hinge Pin. But HK only indirectly tells you that it's the "Right Forearm Angle of Approach" that creates the "Hinge Action". Almost all TGM'ers are "trying" to Hinge by literally holding the Flat Left Wrist Vertical to one of the available Associated Planes and "The struggle" is endless as evidenced in a recent "Thread" started by a new member who is having difficulty holding the Left Wrist Flat. Because Hinge Action is not "cause"; it's an "Effect". These devices teach the Right Forearm Angle of Approach. By having an Approach Angle to deliver the Clubshaft and Clubhead to Impact, rather than using a "Swivel Action", the Hinge is brought into existence. By Varying the Angle of Approach, you change the Hinge Action.
If the new member and his teacher would use one of the devices I created, the student would learn the Angle of Approach of the Right Forearm and begin Hinging immediately. No more Struggle and he would soon grasp that the Right Forearm Angle of Approach is the mother of the concepts in TGM.
Homer Kelley knew this to be true:
Quote:
6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR
With true Throw-Out Action (no manual Clubface manipulation), Centrifugal Force automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging (10-10-D) regardless of the Grip being used. And Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
With true Throw-Out Action (no manual Clubface manipulation), Centrifugal Force automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging (10-10-D) regardless of the Grip being used. And Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
Underline by Daryl.
What is the difference between "Drive Out" as you have quoted and "Throw Out" like it says in the 7. edition?
It's the same as 1-L. The Paddle-Wheel Hinge Stick is HKs Main Hinge Pin. But HK only indirectly tells you that it's the "Right Forearm Angle of Approach" that creates the "Hinge Action". Almost all TGM'ers are "trying" to Hinge by literally holding the Flat Left Wrist Vertical to one of the available Associated Planes and "The struggle" is endless as evidenced in a recent "Thread" started by a new member who is having difficulty holding the Left Wrist Flat. Because Hinge Action is not "cause"; it's an "Effect". These devices teach the Right Forearm Angle of Approach. By having an Approach Angle to deliver the Clubshaft and Clubhead to Impact, rather than using a "Swivel Action", the Hinge is brought into existence. By Varying the Angle of Approach, you change the Hinge Action.
If the new member and his teacher would use one of the devices I created, the student would learn the Angle of Approach of the Right Forearm and begin Hinging immediately. No more Struggle and he would soon grasp that the Right Forearm Angle of Approach is the mother of the concepts in TGM.
Homer Kelley knew this to be true:
Underline by Daryl.
I agree with this....but some variance in clubface motion could happen due to the location of the handle, trigger delay, plane angle and stance plane line combo no?
Been there, done that. I designed and built 3 Alignment Learning Aids to teach players how to Hinge and use the Right Forearm Angle of Approach. Dual Horizontal, Angled and Dual Vertical. You need only two Dowels and a coupler to connect them (or use your Left Hand)
TO USE: Hold the "Paddle-Wheel" Stick Perpendicular to the Associated Plane with your Left Hand. With your Right Hand, Grip the Lever Stick at Impact Fix with your Right Forearm On-Plane and the #3 PP on the Aft Side of the Shaft. Move the "Lever" Stick back and forth with your Right Hand, Forearm and Elbow.
NOTE: Grip the Lever firmly with your Right Hand with a Bent and Level Wrist. Don't allow the right hand to rotate as you move back and forth. This is Hinge Action. If you loosen your Right Hand Grip and Allow the hand to Rotate while the Lever Stick moves, then you're Swiveling.
This teaches Hinge Action and the Right Forearm Angle of Approach for that Hinge Action(and much more). These devices will force you to Hinge through Impact and You CANNOT Swivel through Impact with these devices.
I plan to introduce them in my video.
Interesting stuff....the device I was thinking of would be a hinge at the right wrist bend point that would only allow bending no cocking/uncocking of the right wrist disrupting the right forearm flying wedge alignments....
Linear Mode
