Would it be possible to be a HITTER (pa3 and pa2 rekeased at same time) using all left arm, with pa1 releasing only at delivery phase as an ADD-ON and is completely optional. In the golfer's mind/intent, it would be just pa3. I know pa2 will be released as well, but that golfer is not thinking about pa2 at all. In fact, he is consciously avoiding too much release of it beyond a "level" left wrist.
So, it's all pivot and left arm releasing the pa3 (aka supination Mr. Hogan made famous) right after transition with a huge pa3 angle. I "feel" it's swinging, not hitting, mainly because it uses the left side and the pivot.
Not Bucket but
-the left arm being situated where it is, can only pull. It can not push. Pull being Swinging and Push being Hitting. The right arm however can pull or push , depending on where the right elbow is vis a vis the hands. But its a big load on the right elbow to right arm swing . Imagine that shot putter throwing the shot like a baseball pitcher ....he'd rip his elbow apart. The club is lighter of course but... one can feel the twinges as the right elbow approaches pitch elbow with an active right arm.
-Hitting and Swinging are not defined by their Simultaneous or Sequenced tendencies . It is possible to Swing and be Simultaneous. Accumulator #4 for pivot strokes then 2 and 3 together but initiated by a roll of the left hand off the plane. So (4, 2/3) three accumulator swinging firing order as opposed to (4, 2, 3).
- For all but the shortest of shots the left arm is not moving of its own muscle power . Fro pivot strokes the inert left arm is stretched by extensor action and pulled by the turning pivot , the left shoulder . Pulling the club with the left arm can pull the left arm off the chest .. Release . Better to turn the Pivot and let the left arm be "throw off" later by the slowing of the pivot.
Was excited/hoping to read it this holidays, but hasn't come yet. May have been a blessing, if it arrived I would now be having headaches all day. You'll know, if I stopped reading/online/posting means got it already. Probably stop posting for...what?...2 years?
Was excited/hoping to read it this holidays, but hasn't come yet. May have been a blessing, if it arrived I would now be having headaches all day. You'll know, if I stopped reading/online/posting means got it already. Probably stop posting for...what?...2 years?
Or on the contrary: A lot questions about what this means and how it works...
-the left arm being situated where it is, can only pull. It can not push. Pull being Swinging and Push being Hitting. The right arm however can pull or push , depending on where the right elbow is vis a vis the hands. But its a big load on the right elbow to right arm swing . Imagine that shot putter throwing the shot like a baseball pitcher ....he'd rip his elbow apart. The club is lighter of course but... one can feel the twinges as the right elbow approaches pitch elbow with an active right arm.
-Hitting and Swinging are not defined by their Simultaneous or Sequenced tendencies . It is possible to Swing and be Simultaneous. Accumulator #4 for pivot strokes then 2 and 3 together but initiated by a roll of the left hand off the plane. So (4, 2/3) three accumulator swinging firing order as opposed to (4, 2, 3).
- For all but the shortest of shots the left arm is not moving of its own muscle power . Fro pivot strokes the inert left arm is stretched by extensor action and pulled by the turning pivot , the left shoulder . Pulling the club with the left arm can pull the left arm off the chest .. Release . Better to turn the Pivot and let the left arm be "throw off" later by the slowing of the pivot.
Thanks OB. That's a lot you gave me there.
Re the inert left arm, would intentional supination or ccw rotation of the left forearm/wrist/hand and external rotation of the left upper arm to release the club via pa3 during the down stroke in "violation" or not in accordance or inconsistent with the rule of the inert left arm and law of the flail?
Re the inert left arm, would intentional supination or ccw rotation of the left forearm/wrist/hand and external rotation of the left upper arm to release the club via pa3 during the down stroke in "violation" or not in accordance or inconsistent with the rule of the inert left arm and law of the flail?
no...you can actuate the accumulators "manually"...it's up to the golfer....automatic vs. non-automatic release types....
Would it be possible to be a HITTER (pa3 and pa2 rekeased at same time) using all left arm, with pa1 releasing only at delivery phase as an ADD-ON and is completely optional. In the golfer's mind/intent, it would be just pa3. I know pa2 will be released as well, but that golfer is not thinking about pa2 at all. In fact, he is consciously avoiding too much release of it beyond a "level" left wrist.
So, it's all pivot and left arm releasing the pa3 (aka supination Mr. Hogan made famous) right after transition with a huge pa3 angle. I "feel" it's swinging, not hitting, mainly because it uses the left side and the pivot.
4 barrel hitting...
but Hitting is gonna eventually stress the shaft differently than swinging....that's why you gotta position the right forearm in a way to PUSH the sweetspot....the sweetspot will align "looking at the ball/plane line" earlier....
So have a look at the cattle man's crack....wooooooo!!!! Here we come Brokeback Mountain! Coachman's crack....Swinger's love a working man's crack This cat will even discuss different cracks with you!!!
Note how the forem is aligned with the right shoulder here...backstop for PUSHING....pivot brings the rightshoulder fowward...then the right elbow right tricep LAUNCHES THAT MOFO OFF THE BACKSTOP LAUNCHING PAD WHICH WAS SET IN MOTION BY THE PIVOT....
Or maybe if you don't like a big burly type...you can get you a toofless mullet fireball....here's some more DRIVE LOADING....LAUNCHING PAD PIVOT...PUNCHING...
Note the steep shoulders...Note the "shutty-ish hockey blade sweetspot" ... that stick is rectangular...so he's loading for Hitting...that the lil' edge of the stick...the broad edge...Note the PUNCH ELBOW....elbow aligned for DRIVE LOADING...
NO LOADING FOR SWINGING IN HOCKEY....BAD: Forearm aligned to pull....GOOD: Forearm aligned to PUSH...Slapshot/Punch/Open Palm Strike/Shot Put vs. Forearm aligend to whip crack/fly cast/karate chop/slap
So you gotta pick whether you like a Coachman's Crack or a Backstop Blastoff
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but Hitting is gonna eventually stress the shaft differently than swinging....that's why you gotta position the right forearm in a way to PUSH the sweetspot....the sweetspot will align "looking at the ball/plane line" earlier....
So have a look at the cattle man's crack....wooooooo!!!! Here we come Brokeback Mountain! Coachman's crack....Swinger's love a working man's crack This cat will even discuss different cracks with you!!!
Note how the forem is aligned with the right shoulder here...backstop for PUSHING....pivot brings the rightshoulder fowward...then the right elbow right tricep LAUNCHES THAT MOFO OFF THE BACKSTOP LAUNCHING PAD WHICH WAS SET IN MOTION BY THE PIVOT....
Or maybe if you don't like a big burly type...you can get you a toofless mullet fireball....here's some more DRIVE LOADING....LAUNCHING PAD PIVOT...PUNCHING...
Note the steep shoulders...Note the "shutty-ish hockey blade sweetspot" ... that stick is rectangular...so he's loading for Hitting...that the lil' edge of the stick...the broad edge...Note the PUNCH ELBOW....elbow aligned for DRIVE LOADING...
NO LOADING FOR SWINGING IN HOCKEY....BAD: Forearm aligned to pull....GOOD: Forearm aligned to PUSH...Slapshot/Punch/Open Palm Strike/Shot Put vs. Forearm aligend to whip crack/fly cast/karate chop/slap
So you gotta pick whether you like a Coachman's Crack or a Backstop Blastoff
I like the SWING of the coachman. What do YOU prefer?
Was excited/hoping to read it this holidays, but hasn't come yet. May have been a blessing, if it arrived I would now be having headaches all day. You'll know, if I stopped reading/online/posting means got it already. Probably stop posting for...what?...2 years?
When you read it, you will learn that you can't have a lot of #3 and keep the left wrist level!
interesting how the hockey player hits the ice first, the ice being hard deflects the stick and the kick of the shaft in that short distance between hitting the ground and the puck, golf being quite different as we stress the shaft with the loading action, without any ground resistance until post-impact as golfers hit the ball first, then the ground. hopefully!
You'll know, if I stopped reading/online/posting means got it already. 
This cat will even discuss different cracks with you!!!
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