In the first video, Austin calls golf's "biggest truth" the "biggest lie". He then goes on to demo a good impact hands location past the ball as "proof" that a delayed release is bad!
I was taking about the way he handled the female demonstrating.
Listen to Ben at :56 "...now hold the angle... and at 1:00 "...get the right elbow down in front...". This is the snap release with a pitch elbow midway between the right hip bone and naval, explained and demoed in 5 secs!
Listen to Ben at :56 "...now hold the angle... and at 1:00 "...get the right elbow down in front...". This is the snap release with a pitch elbow midway between the right hip bone and naval, explained and demoed in 5 secs!
I know this may be heresy and brash . . . but just bein' honest here . . . I wouldn't take a lesson from Ben Doyle if he was givin' 'em free across the street with a whole bunch of Hooters girls in tow. Far as I'm concerned that junk has hurt more people than it has helped. Sorry Ben and West Coast Krew . . . but I can't get down with that stuff.
I know this may be heresy and brash . . . but just bein' honest here . . . I wouldn't take a lesson from Ben Doyle if he was givin' 'em free across the street with a whole bunch of Hooters girls in tow. Far as I'm concerned that junk has hurt more people than it has helped. Sorry Ben and West Coast Krew . . . but I can't get down with that stuff.
I had to check to see what forum I was on after reading that! I can't imagine anyone on any forum calling that swing junk. Just listen to the driver - that's some serious compression. What's not to like? And why wouldn't anyone want to copy it?
I had to check to see what forum I was on after reading that! I can't imagine anyone on any forum calling that swing junk. Just listen to the driver - that's some serious compression. What's not to like? And why wouldn't anyone want to copy it?
Swing is fine with me . . . just don't agree with what is being taught . . .
That swing IS what's being taught by Ben and that's one of his students.
I spent time with Ben back in 2005 and can vouch that while he may be eccentric in his own ways, he does know his golf. My updated swing with arms more out to first base.
That swing IS what's being taught by Ben and that's one of his students.
Obviously a very nice swing, and clearly Mr. Doyle is a wonderful teacher. Everybody has their own preferences, I can't imagine playing with or teaching a swing that moves off the ball and is pivot controlled hands. Probably what Mr. Bucket meant, just not our cup of tea.
It's all about the tripod, hands controlled pivot, and The Magic Of The Right Forearm for me...
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
I spent time with Ben back in 2005 and can vouch that while he may be eccentric in his own ways, he does know his golf. My updated swing with arms more out to first base.
You are lucky to have worked with Ben, I wish I were closer to So. Cal. I assume your right elbow has about the same amount of pitch as previous, which is why a belly view wasn't posted. You just added an in-to-out path, to facilitate your push draw? Will this be your "A Swing" for now? Thanks for posting.