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Old 07-25-2011, 12:54 AM
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Have you tried adjusting your aiming point to a spot on the Arc of Approach on the target side of the ball? Seems to me I read that Snap was possible to learn through an Aiming point adjustment. Me, I have it on the other side of The ball for a driver anyways a's I need to give my self more time so to speak to square up the face with that long a lever......

Not that my hand speed is any great achievement or anything.

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Old 07-25-2011, 08:02 AM
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at this point we still have no support for WHY one would employ:

1. A bent right elbow to the navel
2. "more" trigger delay
3. "more" #2 angle later
4. that there is some relation to this and snap release

would like to here the opinion of mechanical advantage and how these work together. not saying they don't but the machine is about picking your components and adjusting their rates of release and method of release . . . how does all this work and what is the support for doing it/not doing it?

Are we just trying to achieve a "look" or does it produce a better result?
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:41 AM
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at this point we still have no support for WHY one would employ:

1. A bent right elbow to the navel
2. "more" trigger delay
3. "more" #2 angle later
4. that there is some relation to this and snap release

would like to here the opinion of mechanical advantage and how these work together. not saying they don't but the machine is about picking your components and adjusting their rates of release and method of release . . . how does all this work and what is the support for doing it/not doing it?

Are we just trying to achieve a "look" or does it produce a better result?
Hi Bucket,

Great question!

I enjoy the way you study EVERYTHING and continue to compare the theories with the foundation of the machine. Great way to learn, and I appreciate the way you allow us to learn from your study.

Too many trying to achieve a "look." It's all about learning to get it around in the lowest # possible. For me, it all comes back to working basic motion and combining those alignments with Zone 1 via the MacDonald drills.

I don't teach tour players, lucky for them so I can focus on KISS.

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Old 07-25-2011, 11:59 AM
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Great discussion guys really enjoying this ......reminds me of the old days.

3. I see Hogan getting his Right Elbow on his watch pocket not his navel.

6. If you need to slow down to achieve Snap does it add anything behond a steeper Angle of Attach?
Yes - but his watch pocket is at or even farther forward of where his naval WAS at address.

You shouldn't try to slow down - NO PIVOT STALL. Watch Hogan, he rotates as hard as he can all the way to his anatomical limits. Slowing down = quitting!
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:21 PM
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at this point we still have no support for WHY one would employ:

1. A bent right elbow to the navel
2. "more" trigger delay
3. "more" #2 angle later
4. that there is some relation to this and snap release

would like to here the opinion of mechanical advantage and how these work together. not saying they don't but the machine is about picking your components and adjusting their rates of release and method of release . . . how does all this work and what is the support for doing it/not doing it?

Are we just trying to achieve a "look" or does it produce a better result?
This all contributes to making the clubhead go a long way in a short time, i.e., more clubhead speed. The great equalizer for those who aren't big, strong rotating machines.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:01 PM
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at this point we still have no support for WHY one would employ:

1. A bent right elbow to the navel
2. "more" trigger delay
3. "more" #2 angle later
4. that there is some relation to this and snap release

would like to here the opinion of mechanical advantage and how these work together. not saying they don't but the machine is about picking your components and adjusting their rates of release and method of release . . . how does all this work and what is the support for doing it/not doing it?

Are we just trying to achieve a "look" or does it produce a better result?
Know what ya mean. I been chasing more longitudinal for years and just love Hogans swing even though I'm more Strickerish. Some buddies of mine have tons of rope handle, too much to thier minds ( it can cause it's own set of problems , distance control with short irons etc). Both these guys are crazy long and bit it pure pure pure. Both would willing trade me some of their longitudinal for " the nice width" they like in my Startdown. Still trying to figure out how to do this. I'd make the trade in a heart beat.

My point is that we all admire that super late look but only a few can really achieve it maybe. I dunno.but regardless you have options in terms of Release and it's probably best to pursue one that you are capable of achieving.

That said there is a mEchanical advantage .... That of the smaller pulley wheel, endless belt. Practically for the golfer the Hands do speed up ( otherwise there wouldn't be any lag pressure for instance). And slow down upon lever ExtEnsion. I guess we are talking swinging in his discussion and so ruling out q muscular Effort to add hand speed during release.

I'm typing on my phone can somebody please post
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:06 PM
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Dang fingers sorry I'm in Hawaii (came here to work on my Hula Hula) without a laptop.

Can somebody please put up the paragraph from 2-p where Homer describes the Overtaking Rate. And also the last paragraPh from 6-n-0.

Thanks in advance
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:47 PM
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Have you tried adjusting your aiming point to a spot on the Arc of Approach on the target side of the ball? Seems to me I read that Snap was possible to learn through an Aiming point adjustment. Me, I have it on the other side of The ball for a driver anyways a's I need to give my self more time so to speak to square up the face with that long a lever......

Not that my hand speed is any great achievement or anything.
Can't say that I have. I just use the ball as an aiming point.
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at this point we still have no support for WHY one would employ:

1. A bent right elbow to the navel
2. "more" trigger delay
3. "more" #2 angle later
4. that there is some relation to this and snap release

would like to here the opinion of mechanical advantage and how these work together. not saying they don't but the machine is about picking your components and adjusting their rates of release and method of release . . . how does all this work and what is the support for doing it/not doing it?

Are we just trying to achieve a "look" or does it produce a better result?
1. We clarified that it's not a bent right elbow to the navel, please read earlier posts.
2,3 and 4. For me personally, it helps me hit push draws and increases total driving distance.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:51 PM
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This all contributes to making the clubhead go a long way in a short time, i.e., more clubhead speed. The great equalizer for those who aren't big, strong rotating machines.
Yes, this is my great equalizer seeing I am not a big rotating machine!
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