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Old 09-11-2010, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jerry1967 View Post
"As soon as your left hand leaves its flat to the inclined plane condition in the Downstroke".


Ok where in relation to the body does this action take place?
When the hands are hip level, thigh level, hands are even with the ball?
The other way of posing this question is "where does Release take place?".

Full Sweep Release would have it happen very early for a high floater around the green or a shot over a tree or something. A knock down would see it happen later as you add shaft lean. Delayed Release for added power, early Release for a higher trajectory , etc etc . Release is one of the tools of the shot maker. A machine adjustment.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:28 PM
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Seems like PGA tour guys are using the pivot, the rolling hands or a combo of both which is the best? Or should one use different ones depending on the length of the shot?
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Old 09-11-2010, 09:04 PM
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Seems like PGA tour guys are using the pivot, the rolling hands or a combo of both which is the best? Or should one use different ones depending on the length of the shot?

Everyone uses the Pivot. Fast, Slow and everywhere in-between. But Rolling of the Hands? I have two video links posted below. Both of the same golfer who has an exceptionally powerful Pivot.


The First Video is a slow motion side view capture of the "so called - Rolling Hands". Watch this video and observe the Left Wrist Roll through the Impact Interval. Do you call this "Roll"? I call this "Swiveling into Hinge Action". Turn and Roll is the Clubface opening or closing to the Plane Line which is controlled by the Pivots Rotation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9e-F...eature=related


The Second video
is a Slow mo down the line view. Observe his Right Hand #3 Accumulator Roll. It's basically perfect. Paddle-wheel, Hogans underhand pitch, etc.




After comparing your observations, tell me if you still think the same way. Did he Swivel or was his Left Wrist Swiveled by the #3 Accumulator?

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Old 09-14-2010, 04:44 PM
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Everyone uses the Pivot. Fast, Slow and everywhere in-between. But Rolling of the Hands? I have two video links posted below. Both of the same golfer who has an exceptionally powerful Pivot.


The First Video is a slow motion side view capture of the "so called - Rolling Hands". Watch this video and observe the Left Wrist Roll through the Impact Interval. Do you call this "Roll"? I call this "Swiveling into Hinge Action". Turn and Roll is the Clubface opening or closing to the Plane Line which is controlled by the Pivots Rotation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9e-F...eature=related


The Second video
is a Slow mo down the line view. Observe his Right Hand #3 Accumulator Roll. It's basically perfect. Paddle-wheel, Hogans underhand pitch, etc.




After comparing your observations, tell me if you still think the same way. Did he Swivel or was his Left Wrist Swiveled by the #3 Accumulator?
WHAT???? This don't look nothing like no Hogan . . . .



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I came across this one recently ....thought you'd like it Buck if you havent seen it already. Nice, eh?


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Old 09-14-2010, 06:27 PM
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Hey O.B. Look what I found at an Antique Bookstore.

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Old 09-14-2010, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Everyone uses the Pivot. Fast, Slow and everywhere in-between. But Rolling of the Hands? I have two video links posted below. Both of the same golfer who has an exceptionally powerful Pivot.


The First Video is a slow motion side view capture of the "so called - Rolling Hands". Watch this video and observe the Left Wrist Roll through the Impact Interval. Do you call this "Roll"? I call this "Swiveling into Hinge Action". Turn and Roll is the Clubface opening or closing to the Plane Line which is controlled by the Pivots Rotation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9e-F...eature=related


The Second video
is a Slow mo down the line view. Observe his Right Hand #3 Accumulator Roll. It's basically perfect. Paddle-wheel, Hogans underhand pitch, etc.




After comparing your observations, tell me if you still think the same way. Did he Swivel or was his Left Wrist Swiveled by the #3 Accumulator?
Do you think he would benefit by keeping the right wrist bent a bit longer past impact?
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:04 PM
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Do you think he would benefit by keeping the right wrist bent a bit longer past impact?
I don't know.

The Purpose of Video #2 was to show the Right Hand Motion from Release to Impact. Compare that with the First Video while looking at his Left Wrist Rotation. How does one reconcile these differences.

Is he Swiveling his Left Wrist?
Is his Right Hand Swiveling his Left Wrist?
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:17 AM
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Hey O.B. Look what I found at an Antique Bookstore.

Man, thats a find D.

I only have the old abridged version from Reader Digest that deals with "the 12 Piece takeaway" and "swing in a Bucket".

Hi oh!
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Man, thats a find D.

I only have the old abridged version from Reader Digest that deals with "the 12 Piece takeaway" and "swing in a Bucket".

Hi oh!
NICE! Just noticed the dig on the cover! Nice work Daryl . . . . .

Ricky F looks like Hogan for a while (minus the Barney outfits) . . . until he turns into a plane line shifting wrist rubber.
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