Hank Haney and the Swing Plane

[BerntR]

birdie_man,

I believe the club needs to be slightly closed at the top to account for the required amount of clubhead lag at impact

[EdZ]

In that first picture of Tiger (of him at the top of his swing) isn't his clubface closed though? This is what I don't get...everyone says the clubface should be aligned to the left arm or w/e to be square...well his isn't, I can see that right there...yet you will still hear that it's "dead square" or w/e.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way.

This is one of the bigger differences with his swing now vs. 2000-2001 (which I agree Brian, was MUCH better)


I should clarify, I wasn't commenting that Tiger's flying wedge alignments were anything new - just that this was an excellent example of them -

The difference IMO is that Tiger can and does 'recover' from a less than ideal backswing/top of swing that he has now - the too flat/arched wrist move I don't care for - when his TEMPO is on, he'll recover, but as we saw at the Masters, when his tempo was off.... fore right!

That said, when he properly uses extensor action and keeps the 'structure' of the wedges in place, he looks as good as ever - much better plane than the last couple years and closer to the 2000-2001 season


Two things to work on Tiger - extensor action and tempo - get those wedges set and KEEP them with extensor action and the tempo issue won't be much of a problem!

[Theodan]

Originally Posted by birdie_man

In that first picture of Tiger (of him at the top of his swing) isn't his clubface closed though? This is what I don't get...everyone says the clubface should be aligned to the left arm or w/e to be square...well his isn't, I can see that right there...yet you will still hear that it's "dead square" or w/e. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way.

This is one of the bigger differences with his swing now vs. 2000-2001 (which I agree Brian, was MUCH better)


I should clarify, I wasn't commenting that Tiger's flying wedge alignments were anything new - just that this was an excellent example of them -

The difference IMO is that Tiger can and does 'recover' from a less than ideal backswing/top of swing that he has now - the too flat/arched wrist move I don't care for - when his TEMPO is on, he'll recover, but as we saw at the Masters, when his tempo was off.... fore right!

That said, when he properly uses extensor action and keeps the 'structure' of the wedges in place, he looks as good as ever - much better plane than the last couple years and closer to the 2000-2001 season


Two things to work on Tiger - extensor action and tempo - get those wedges set and KEEP them with extensor action and the tempo issue won't be much of a problem!

Yep. Tempo is the call. The rate at which he fires his hips takes him all out of rhythm. Timing and rate are both an issue. I don't know what he is after. I have a recording of one of his tee shots at the Masters. He did a simple bump and turn and sent it 330 yds.

And at least in my game, it's amazing how many problems can be avoided with proper Extensor Action.

[krpainter]

I know who it is in the first 2 pictures and he looks pretty good, but how about that third picture? Not sure who he is, but definitely looks like a tour player at impact!

Keith

PS - Trig, would have thought it was a tour player if I didn't see your profile in the Bagger vs. Nukem video.

[Trig]

I know who it is in the first 2 pictures and he looks pretty good, but how about that third picture? Not sure who he is, but definitely looks like a tour player at impact!

Keith

PS - Trig, would have thought it was a tour player if I didn't see your profile in the Bagger vs. Nukem video.

Ok, the cat's out of the bag! It's NOT Tiger!

[Trig]

Here's his position at the top at the 2000 British Open. Check out the clubface and the left wrist.

[birdie_man]

Ya! That one at St. Andrews is perfect. That's what I'm talkin' about!

That's an awesome picture. Why would he ever want to change that???

[Martee]

Ya! That one at St. Andrews is perfect. That's what I'm talkin' about!

That's an awesome picture. Why would he ever want to change that???

Too steep of a plane angle for his likening...

Flatter and longer is what he is doing today...

[BerntR]

He will hit it longer with the new swing. No doutbt about it.

[birdie_man]

I mainly like the left wrist angle in that photo at St. A's.

Why would he hit it longer now???

BTW I think Martee meant his swing will be longer...as in the swing itself...not his shots.