I think that Bucket is saying that the "flat" that we see from the skin side of the wrist does not necessarily mean that the bony articulation within the wrist joint is in its neutral position.
If you have a lagging force acting on a rope and you pull the end of the rope then the rope will go straight -and it looks straight...
If you have an ON-PLANE lagging force acting on the wrist joint then it too should go into a straight line relationship... in the vertical plane of hammering nails ( assuming you like a vertical nail and are good at hammering) then you have a vertical ON-PLANE lagging force ( hammer head)...
What i understand from Bucket's pics is that these guyslook like good hammering people and the lagging force has presumably pulled their wrist joint in line... but LOOK, LOOK, LOOK at the external appearance ... small cup is apparent...
So it seems that an in line, on plane relationship of a wrist ASSUMING A HAMMER GRIP ( this might not hold for golf grip???) gives a small cup.
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Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
This may have been mentioned earlier, but, there is difference between hammering with your right hand with a hammer and hitting a ball with a golfclub.
I see the difference as being that with the hammer your right wrist is on top of the handle and with a club it is more to the side.
I'm talking left hand right now . . . but we can talk right hand. I'm talking about cocking and uncocking the hammer but just imagine you're left handed instead of right handed when you drive a nail.
Since when does natural movement and effectiveness in the golf swing collide in the same sentence? If an effective golf swing was "natural" we would not need the genius of Homer or the patience of Lynn, Ted, et al to help us.
If you can see a cup in Lee Buck's left wrist I will buy you a case of moon pies!
Since when does natural movement and effectiveness in the golf swing collide in the same sentence? If an effective golf swing was "natural" we would not need the genius of Homer or the patience of Lynn, Ted, et al to help us.
If you can see a cup in Lee Buck's left wrist I will buy you a case of moon pies!
UPP in rainy Ohio
Oh I agree . . . I put Lee's up to show that you can do it many different ways and play great golf. However, many people say you gotta be VISUALLY Flat . . . I'm saying that ain't the way your body works. I'm saying that if your joints work that way, why not take advantage of it. You get a full range of motion and it is easier to UNCOCK. Lee Buck is my favorite motion of all time. I think he is as least 2nd if not 1st in ball strikers of all time . .. but he didn't hit it really high. Do you reckon that is why? The Arch? That clubshaft IS NOT in line with his arm. But he makes a motion that is compensatory and could hit any shot he wanted to.
I don't think you'd teach anybody to play that way . . . but if the did it you may not talk 'em out of it either.
I'm just saying if you pick something up like a stick or hammer or whatever . . . your subconsicious kinda has you pick it up with a turned hand. Then when you shorten the radius, you cock AND bend. Because that's the way you was built.
A-OK 12 piece Zinger!!! Got what you are saying and by God you are right!!! But....only, if the "back" of the left wrist is on top of the shaft and paralell to the leading edge of the clubface. In this case when the wrist is cocked there will be a "natural" bend look to it........just like Hogan's.... in some pictures, let's not go there too much.
If the entire left wrist is a bit to the left of the top of the shaft then the wrist will look perfectly flat. I still maintain and no one will ever change this in my mind that....if you hold your hand out in front of you with the wrist verticle, then make a fist....there will be a natural bend....and to some that is flat enough.
A-OK 12 piece Zinger!!! Got what you are saying and by God you are right!!! But....only, if the "back" of the left wrist is on top of the shaft and paralell to the leading edge of the clubface. In this case when the wrist is cocked there will be a "natural" bend look to it........just like Hogan's.... in some pictures, let's not go there too much.
If the entire left wrist is a bit to the left of the top of the shaft then the wrist will look perfectly flat. I still maintain and no one will ever change this in my mind that....if you hold your hand out in front of you with the wrist verticle, then make a fist....there will be a natural bend....and to some that is flat enough.
It is the relationship of the ARM and the SHAFT that make the difference . . . that is the basis of the flat left wrist . . . NOT the actual wrist itself. If you have a turned left hand and you have to cock and bend to keep the arm and the shaft in line . . . YOU GOT A FLAT LEFT WRIST . . . Geometrically Flat.
Me 'n You is singing from the same hymnal . . . Altogether now . . . SWINNNNG LOWWWW SWEEEEEEET CHARRRRRIOTTTTTTT . . .
Now question for you . . . SHOULD THE LEFT WRIST BE ON THE LEFT SIDE OR TOP?
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