Not trying to get weird here but would like to know how this sounds to you guys.....
The left hand turns and the right wrist bends, the right forearem rotates and the right elbow bends.
Extensor action (as I feel it) maintains the alignments, balance and flow.
If this is a correct sequence then......I was thinking that the words describing the movement of the clubhead would be.....
In/back (much like down/out is used for the downswing), up and behind.
In/back, up and behind. It makes for a nice compact backswing.
Is this too crazy? Is there a flaw in this pattern?
Backward ,upward and inward-INSTANTLY and SIMULTANEOUSLY.
Extensor action is constant all the way from address to finish.
I would not call it a sequence.Remember to ensure the club should always point at the plane line -extended to the horizon until it reaches parallel to the plane line.
So no, doesn't sound too crazy to me ,....".nice compact backswing " sounds highly desirable
Had a student the other day who, when trying to do a takeaway with "back" as the first move, his right arm would separate from his chest and couldn't load his wrist very well. So, I changed the wording to in/back to where he would then turn his left hand as the first move. This bent his right hand and kept his arm connected.
Thought is was interesting how words in a different order could make such a great difference. Kinda fun.
Had a student the other day who, when trying to do a takeaway with "back" as the first move, his right arm would separate from his chest and couldn't load his wrist very well. So, I changed the wording to in/back to where he would then turn his left hand as the first move. This bent his right hand and kept his arm connected.
Thought is was interesting how words in a different order could make such a great difference. Kinda fun.
When On-Plane on the Incline Plane, Up and Back are the same direction. Add a pivot and IN is also in the same direction.
Had a student the other day who, when trying to do a takeaway with "back" as the first move, his right arm would separate from his chest and couldn't load his wrist very well. So, I changed the wording to in/back to where he would then turn his left hand as the first move. This bent his right hand and kept his arm connected.
Thought is was interesting how words in a different order could make such a great difference. Kinda fun.
Per the Magic of the Right Forearm......7-3....Futhermore, in compliance with 6-B-3-0-1, Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and/or COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist with Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist. Practice this first at Impact Fix.
Tomasello interview......Golf Illustrated July 1991.
Tomasello: Here we get into the terminology that scares people. You swing the club via two "divergent force vectors". This simply means that two different forces are being combined. One force is moving the club upward and downward. A second force is moving the club outward, away from you.
The upward and downward force is provided by a straight-up folding and unfolding of the right forearm from its address position. You simply fold your right arm at the elbow to swing the club up. From there, you try to throw the clubhead into the ground by unfolding your right arm. The outward or horizontal force force comes from the pivoting of the hips to the right rear on the backswing and the left rear on the downswing. This horizontal force throws the clubhead out away from you, on a horizontal plane.
On the downswing, when you combine these two "divergent force vectors," the result is the movement of the club on the correct plane.
When I followed Homer and Tom Tomasello's recommendations to a T....I got extensor action for free. Then you begin to understand the Magic of the Right Forearm...if you haven't already. Zach Johnson does.
Also, when executing the Magic of the Right Forearm.....keep your mind in your hands and keep your hands on the Straight Line Delivery Path.....10-23-A for Hitting and 10-23-C for Swinging. Then monitor your right hip per 12-3-0-24. Execute this few concepts correctly and you're on your way to a very consistent backstroke and a full swing or hitting procedure. I guarantee it.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 07-14-2007 at 09:00 PM.
I believe it! Thanks for the insight. It must have been awesome to spend time with HK and TT.
I also want to say thanks to everyone, as it is much easier for me to understand the references given with your personal input on how to understand it.
I believe it! Thanks for the insight. It must have been awesome to spend time with HK and TT.
I also want to say thanks to everyone, as it is much easier for me to understand the references given with your personal input on how to understand it.
Thank you all,
spike
Had an individual three day school with Tomasello and talked on the phone with Tommy....the reference to HK is through the text. Some doubt that Tommy taught from the book....I see it the other way.....I believe Tommy did not deviate from the book at all.
GI interview....
GI: And you were able to assimilate all of this?
Tomasello: Learning the principles took time. I knew that Homer's information was what I was looking for; truthfully, after those sessions it was still over my head. Eventually, though, I learned both the movements and how to communicate them.
Learned those movements and how to communicate them from Homer Kelley.
Let me ask you guys something about this thread.....Right Forearm Pick Up.
The word "Pick Up" sounds like a pulling action designed to lift.
I may be way off here but that seems to me (pulling up or picking up) a detrimental thought/action.
Shouldn't extensor action be more of a pushing action with the hands that if properly done will cause the right elbow to bend.?
I find that when i turn the left hand and "push" down or against the turned left hand in the takeaway, along with a leading right hip turn, that not only do the hands stay more centered to the body but the right elbow bends (up) as a natural bio-mechanical reaction.
So, he said, as he stepped out on that finger lickin' greasy limb....don't you think it should have been called a Bent Right Hand Forearm Push Up?
Let me ask you guys something about this thread.....Right Forearm Pick Up.
The word "Pick Up" sounds like a pulling action designed to lift.
I may be way off here but that seems to me (pulling up or picking up) a detrimental thought/action.
Shouldn't extensor action be more of a pushing action with the hands that if properly done will cause the right elbow to bend.?
I find that when i turn the left hand and "push" down or against the turned left hand in the takeaway, along with a leading right hip turn, that not only do the hands stay more centered to the body but the right elbow bends (up) as a natural bio-mechanical reaction.
So, he said, as he stepped out on that finger lickin' greasy limb....don't you think it should have been called a Bent Right Hand Forearm Push Up?
It's called standard hip action....if executed per a true standard hip action it will produce a "Top Arc and Angled Delivery Path"....your choice. Tends to be more of a Ballard/Leadbetter move....
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 07-15-2007 at 04:23 PM.
Let me ask you guys something about this thread.....Right Forearm Pick Up.
The word "Pick Up" sounds like a pulling action designed to lift.
I may be way off here but that seems to me (pulling up or picking up) a detrimental thought/action.
Shouldn't extensor action be more of a pushing action with the hands that if properly done will cause the right elbow to bend.?
I find that when i turn the left hand and "push" down or against the turned left hand in the takeaway, along with a leading right hip turn, that not only do the hands stay more centered to the body but the right elbow bends (up) as a natural bio-mechanical reaction.
So, he said, as he stepped out on that finger lickin' greasy limb....don't you think it should have been called a Bent Right Hand Forearm Push Up?
Homer called it a pick up becasue you pick the club up on plane. It is really that simple.
Extensor Action does not pick up the club or move the left arm in any way. Extensor Action gives structure to the left arm so the stroke doesn't fall apart. It straightens the left arm and can feel like a pushing down to straighten the left arm or can feel like a pulling or tugging on the left arm. It stretches never moves.
I feel a tug or pulling on my left arm but the right arm picks up the club and left arm- not Extensor Action.
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